[article] CCTV to play key role in sex-on-DART inquiry

[Mark Gleeson]

Originally Posted by Irish Independent

CCTV to play key role in sex-on-DART inquiry

IARNROD Eireann is to have a full investigation into reports that a couple high on drugs had sex on a DART earlier this week.

Spokesman Barry Kenny said the incident was the first of its type reported to the transport company, and that CCTV footage would be examined with a view to taking a prosecution.

"It wasn't reported to us directly and as far as we can gather it's the first time it's happened on the DART," he said yesterday.

"We have to establish if CCTV was on the DART, but it was clearly an isolated incident. We will look at CCTV footage and see if they can be identified with a view to taking a prosecution."

The couple could be prosecuted under the Criminal Law (Sexual) Act, which has a charge of indecency.

They could also be charged under the Public Order Act with threatening, insulting or abusive behaviour.

http://www.unison.ie/irish_independe...issue_id=14327
Irish Independent 2006

Not the first time, certainly others have tired this

What odds on the train not have CCTV but the PA saying it does?

[Thomas J Stamp]

There is actually a website where you can view plenty of reproductive activites in Dublin captured on CCTV, including on IE property (yep, the DART). I'll send Barry a cheque for the subscription.

[James Shields]

So if I ever want to "do it on the DART", I'd better make sure I pick a coach without CCTV.

Odds are fairly good at the moment, but if the LHB units ever come back from their travels, we'll really have to watch out.

[Mark Gleeson]

Given the current incompetence in Irish Rail with IT I'd give extremely long odds on IE recovering the CCTV footage unless staff intervention took place at the time of the incident

[Mark]

Copies of the CCTV tape will be on sale from Heuston Station and Pearse Station..

[Mark Gleeson]

Thats my fear the lads are still looking for the video recorder on the train, it hasn't got one its a digital computer hard drive system

Under the Data Protection Act you can request your mug shot taken on any CCTV system once you can indentify the camera date time etc we should try that

[Mark Gleeson]

Originally Posted by Irish Independent

Streaker on the tracks is just the latest in long line of exhibitionists

THE current fascination with nudity and public transport continued yesterday after a naked man literally stopped a train in its tracks.

The latest incident comes in the wake of a streaker on the Luas, and a couple having sex in full view of other passengers on the Dart in the past week

....more about streaker....

Earlier this week, Ciaran Plower (23) revealed that he had streaked along two carriages of the Luas to win a €500 bet, while Iarnrod Eireann launched an investigation last weekend after a young couple had sex on the Dart.

Reviewing

Spokesman Barry Kenny said gardai are reviewing CCTV footage from the Sandycove Dart station which they believe identifies the couple.

Although the Dart in question was an older train and not equipped with a CCTV camera, gardai believe the footage showing the couple waiting for the train at Sandycove is sufficient to track down at least one of the suspects.

"At least one of them is identifiable and gardai believe one of the two is known to them," he said.

Yet despite the outrageous display in which the couple engaged in both oral and full-on sex on the floor of the carriage during the evening rush-hour, no official complaints have been lodged by fellow passengers, he added.

Jason O'Brien

http://unison.ie/irish_independent/s...issue_id=14347
© Irish Independent 2006

So as we guessed no CCTV on train

[Thomas J Stamp]

Current phoenix mag has in interesting slant to this story

[Mark Gleeson]

Did some searching and it appears that there is a formal legal block on this kind of thing

Originally Posted by Si 109/1984

17. No person shall at any time while upon the railway or in any vehicle use any threatening, abusive, obscene, or offensive language or behave in a riotous, disorderly, indecent or offensive manner, or write, draw or affix any abusive, obscene or offensive word, representation, or character upon, or wilfully soil or defile, the railway or any lift or vehicle, or molest or wilfully interfere with the comfort or convenience of any passenger or person in or upon the railway or in any vehicle.

Todays article tries to convince us that since it was a rush hour train that there were many present, I've travelled with a whole coach to myself in the evening rush hour.

[PaulM]

Mark, does that train claim to have CCTV?

[Mark Gleeson]

36 claim to have CCTV but are not fitted
76 have no CCTV but are being fitted
52 are fitted with CCTV
154 Total

Looks like a zero chance of that gaff, old implies the LHB fleet, if it means non CCTV fitted then its in the ballpark of (0.37 * Prob(PIS actually turned on)) * 100

[Mark Hennessy]

Originally Posted by Thomas J Stamp

Current phoenix mag has in interesting slant to this story

Here's what Goldhawk has to say

WOULD the Evening Herald’s shock, frontpage lead last Monday, headlined, ‘I Saw
couple have sex on the DART’, constitute an offence under Michael McDowell’s proposed
privacy law – by the media, the couple, or both?
The Herald’s exclusive about a dart on the DART was witnessed, with “shock and horror” by a Mr Frank Coughlan, “originally from Cork”, who described the couple’s performance in graphic detail. Inside, the Herald editorialised in sombre tone, linking such conduct to ‘serious crimes”. Meanwhile, the traumatised witness, Coughlan, may hail from Cork, but turns out to be a hardened hack from the Herald days, now features editor with the Indo.

[Mark Gleeson]

Latest info is that the two involved boarded at Sandycove and left the train at Bray, thats only a 15 minute journey time

The platform CCTV system used by the drivers for the look back picked them up

[TomB]

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

Latest info is that the two involved boarded at Sandycove and left the train at Bray, thats only a 15 minute journey time

Classic