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![]() Regarding the Luas link up I feel that it will be built. It is currently at design stage and I would say that Cullen will be making it a feature of his reign as transport minister.
An alternative as Sean pointed out is a bus link up. Perhaps branded to look like Luas trams and accepting of all central zone valid tickets. It would go back and forth from O'Connell Street to St Stephen's Green at a 5 min frequency. Run by the RPA perhaps or is that asking too much? Once again tho there is considerable commercial pressure to see the link up and at a possible build time of 2 years and a cost of circa €100m I cant see it being pulled at this stage. Government/DoT officials etc will announce it as an investment in transport in the city centre etc etc but what it really is is just them correcting their mistakes at the expense of the public and the taxpayer in both the guise of too late and now over cost. |
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![]() Garret's position has always been that Luas capacity does not provide sufficient capacity or a diverse enough reach to justify the wholesale disruption to Dublin Bus routes if this route is selected.
Lets be honest if Luas enters Nassau Street it will for the first time have no segregation whatsoever from other road uses. Looking at the existing on street lines Harcourt Road to Stephens Green is clearly segregated as is Connolly to Upper Abbey St and St Mary's Abbey to St James' Hospital. Analysing the traffic flows of Upper Abbey St there is solely the odd car who uses the route illegally and the odd delivery van who uses it to service either Jervis or local retail. Upper Abbey St is no comparison to the number of buses who use Nassau St not to mention taxis and cars who use it illegally. There is also the issue of the pinch point between BOI 2 College Green and Trinity College; put simply there is a serious choice for Martin Cullen to make Change the favoured Luas route or change the Bus routes away from College Green/Nassau St |
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Ideally I would like to see the central underground tunnel having two northern portals - One at DCU and one at Broadstone with the split happening at the top of O'Connell street. It would then have two southern portals - One on the Kimmage/Tallaght alignment and one at either Adelaide Street or Beechwood (As discussed here: http://forum.platform11.org/showthread.php?t=435) The southern split would happen under Iveagh Gardens. Problem is as always, cost and politics. |
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![]() Politically we all know this will not happen the government have to at least provide some road works pre June 2007 on this.
I however feel that a Luas link up if the route is carefully selected will attract sufficient passengers to justify the cost even after the arrival of an underground metro be it to Tallaght or Cherrywood. The problem here is that neither route has been adequately addressed for the longer term and that the Luas link up is being presented as the end game. Which even prior to the Cherrywood and Citywest extensions looks inadequate given the rate at which densities are increasing on the line. |
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![]() The simple solution is to allow buses to use the tram route too. Works all over Europe. The on street tram is always going to be useful, whatever happens with a metro. In the short term they should allow buses on the tram tracks and longer ter move away from so many radial bus routes altogether, in favour of orbitals feeding into radial rail routes.
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