[article] Enough Empty Trains to get to the Moon

Mark Gleeson · 28-09-2008, 11:56

Sunday Tribune, today, front page.

Waiting for the online edition to post the full text

Mark Hennessy · 28-09-2008, 13:54

Front page of Tribune:

http://www.tribune.ie/news/article/2...t-to-the-moon/

and inside:

http://www.tribune.ie/news/home-news...off-the-rails/

Thomas Ralph · 28-09-2008, 16:27

Would be good if they'd checked their facts. For example it says there is no service from the city to Greystones before 0825, but a Rosslare service leaves Connolly at 0726 and calls there.

Mark Gleeson · 28-09-2008, 16:59

Its not phrased well, first train to arrive Greystones does so at 8:24. First DART service arrives 9:19 (but it only runs from Bray). The first real service arrives at 10:23am! There are 6 empty Bray Greystones DART services ahead of the 8:24.

Anytime I've travelled to Greystones a significant number of passengers joined at Bray

Thomas Ralph · 28-09-2008, 18:36

Well there's a railcar service gets to Bray in time to meet that first DART. But I suppose they have a good point overall.

Mark Hennessy · 29-09-2008, 07:46

This was front page of the Metro today also.

KennyG · 29-09-2008, 15:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by tralph

Would be good if they'd checked their facts. For example it says there is no service from the city to Greystones before 0825, but a Rosslare service leaves Connolly at 0726 and calls there.

Hi, I'm the author of the Tribune piece. As Mark said, I was refering to the arrival time into Greystones rather than the departure time from the city. Any confusion is due to my phrasing rather than lack of research. It took me three weeks to carry out all the work involved.

Regards,
Ken Griffin

Thomas Ralph · 30-09-2008, 20:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by KennyG

Hi, I'm the author of the Tribune piece. As Mark said, I was refering to the arrival time into Greystones rather than the departure time from the city. Any confusion is due to my phrasing rather than lack of research. It took me three weeks to carry out all the work involved.

Regards,
Ken Griffin

Thanks for the clarification and apologies for assuming the negative.

Laois Commuter · 01-10-2008, 08:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by tralph

Thanks for the clarification and apologies for assuming the negative.

However, if a journalist can't phrase things clearly and concisely (when writing is his job) how can he criticise others??

LC

Mark Gleeson · 29-09-2008, 09:39

Provide a bit more detail to this

The total distance is over 516,000km per annum, this does not include all empty trains just those of interest, so the Saturday Ballina Drogheda empty isn't there, nor is the Inchicore Connolly Inchicore empty railcar. The figures can't be denied and Irish Rail haven't tried

The highlights

18:50 Howth Bray empty despite a 24 minute gap between services
22:00 Heuston Portlaois empty despite a promise to have a later train to Portlaois
4:30 Connolly Arklow empty, runs in service to Rosslare from Arklow, would be handy for the ferry
21:55 Ballina Claremorris on a Friday
21:10 Longford Connolly empty, why can't it stay the night and operate in place of the morning train from Enfield?
5:50 Connolly Enfield
4:10 Connolly Gorey, why can't it run at 22:00?

Then there is a the crazy Galway Dublin empty and Athlone Dublin empty and indeed a Dublin Athlone empty. 90 odd other ones to go with them.

Mark Gleeson · 29-09-2008, 14:26

Today FM 16:40 tonight

I can't wait to see how Irish Rail dig themselves out of this mess

ThomasJ · 30-09-2008, 13:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

Today FM 16:40 tonight

I can't wait to see how Irish Rail dig themselves out of this mess

Any chance of a podcast/recording Mark, i'm snapping I missed it!

Mark Gleeson · 30-09-2008, 13:27

Will do shortly

Should be here http://www.radioireland.ie/lastword/2992008-16.wmv about 10 minutes in

Edit

http://www.railusers.ie/podcasts/aud...hostTrains.mp3

weehamster · 04-10-2008, 09:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

Will do shortly

Should be here http://www.radioireland.ie/lastword/2992008-16.wmv about 10 minutes in

Edit

http://www.railusers.ie/podcasts/aud...hostTrains.mp3

Missed this post.

Wow,

isnt she very aggressive. Typical Irish Rail attitude though. So who is this Jane. Is she new? Has poor aule Barry been let go for not being
aggressive enough.

28-09-2008, 11:56	#1
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	[article] Enough Empty Trains to get to the Moon Sunday Tribune, today, front page. Waiting for the online edition to post the full text __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

28-09-2008, 16:59	#4
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Its not phrased well, first train to arrive Greystones does so at 8:24. First DART service arrives 9:19 (but it only runs from Bray). The first real service arrives at 10:23am! There are 6 empty Bray Greystones DART services ahead of the 8:24. Anytime I've travelled to Greystones a significant number of passengers joined at Bray __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

29-09-2008, 09:39	#10
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Provide a bit more detail to this The total distance is over 516,000km per annum, this does not include all empty trains just those of interest, so the Saturday Ballina Drogheda empty isn't there, nor is the Inchicore Connolly Inchicore empty railcar. The figures can't be denied and Irish Rail haven't tried The highlights 18:50 Howth Bray empty despite a 24 minute gap between services 22:00 Heuston Portlaois empty despite a promise to have a later train to Portlaois 4:30 Connolly Arklow empty, runs in service to Rosslare from Arklow, would be handy for the ferry 21:55 Ballina Claremorris on a Friday 21:10 Longford Connolly empty, why can't it stay the night and operate in place of the morning train from Enfield? 5:50 Connolly Enfield 4:10 Connolly Gorey, why can't it run at 22:00? Then there is a the crazy Galway Dublin empty and Athlone Dublin empty and indeed a Dublin Athlone empty. 90 odd other ones to go with them. __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know Last edited by Mark Gleeson : 29-09-2008 at 09:48.

29-09-2008, 14:26	#11
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Today FM 16:40 tonight I can't wait to see how Irish Rail dig themselves out of this mess __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

30-09-2008, 13:27	#13
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Will do shortly Should be here http://www.radioireland.ie/lastword/2992008-16.wmv about 10 minutes in Edit http://www.railusers.ie/podcasts/aud...hostTrains.mp3 __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know Last edited by Mark Gleeson : 11-10-2008 at 10:41.

28-09-2008, 13:54	#2
Mark Hennessy Membership Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Maynooth Posts: 1,116	Front page of Tribune: http://www.tribune.ie/news/article/2...t-to-the-moon/ and inside: http://www.tribune.ie/news/home-news...off-the-rails/

28-09-2008, 16:27	#3
Thomas Ralph IT Officer Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greenwich, London Posts: 1,860	Would be good if they'd checked their facts. For example it says there is no service from the city to Greystones before 0825, but a Rosslare service leaves Connolly at 0726 and calls there.

28-09-2008, 18:36	#5
Thomas Ralph IT Officer Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greenwich, London Posts: 1,860	Well there's a railcar service gets to Bray in time to meet that first DART. But I suppose they have a good point overall.

29-09-2008, 07:46	#6
Mark Hennessy Membership Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Maynooth Posts: 1,116	This was front page of the Metro today also.

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