Six-car sets

sublimity · 06-05-2008, 11:24

Will there be a six car set allocated to the dublin-rosslare line? like 2x 3 car sets on the sligo line at the moment cos i know the proper six car sets haven't arrived yet. I Think at least one sevice to rosslare should be in a six car format. Really hope this happens.

I presume the new sevice to gorey stating today is only a 3 car set?

Mark Gleeson · 06-05-2008, 11:33

2 car cars, 1 6 car, as the line is somewhat shared with the Sligo service it might become 2 6 car and 1 3 car

KSW · 06-05-2008, 15:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by sublimity

Will there be a six car set allocated to the dublin-rosslare line? like 2x 3 car sets on the sligo line at the moment cos i know the proper six car sets haven't arrived yet. I Think at least one sevice to rosslare should be in a six car format. Really hope this happens.

I presume the new sevice to gorey stating today is only a 3 car set?

I just parked my car at connolly and seen a commuter 29000 displaying gorey. If this is the case i am over going to travel on IE again.

ThomasJ · 06-05-2008, 15:44

So the Rosslare line will get six-coaches. Do all the stations have platforms to take them. Also is a 6-set 22k set much bigger if bigger than a six-coach a six-coach 2800 set?

WRT to the Sligo line has it converted to 100% 22k operation today?

KSW · 06-05-2008, 15:50

The 16.40 train is a 29000 what happened to "operated by the new intercity railcars" If IE can get a commuter train 4 this service then they are not short of trains. The more I think about it they done this on purpose to get passengers onto this service prove me wrong otherwise.. I am so frustrated with IE im sure the other guy is to with his camera. Well no more trains for me..... There was a 3x2 set pulled into platform 4 im sick..
this service never displayed on any of stations along the way

ThomasJ · 06-05-2008, 15:54

Anyone notice what is missing? Interesting...

Quote:

New Gorey Commuter Service Starts by Corporate Communications

Tuesday 6th May

A new daily Gorey Commuter Service started today. The extra service will depart Connolly at 16:40hrs, serving Tara Street, Pearse, and all Co Wicklow stations from Bray to Arklow, arriving in Gorey at 18.33hrs.

A return service will operate from Gorey at 19:23hrs, arriving in Dublin at 21.18hrs.

The additional service increases evening commuting options for Co Wicklow and Gorey commuters, with services departing Dublin at 16.40hrs, 17.25hrs and 18.37hrs.

http://www.irishrail.ie/news_centre/...ew&news_id=369

KSW · 06-05-2008, 16:14

Smart ****s!! They waited until the service departed to announce Daily commuter service in otherwards they knew what train it was going to be.

ThomasJ · 06-05-2008, 17:29

i'm suprised that given the speed restriction that would have applied to that service. ie length of time it takes to get to bray, stuck behind darts etc I would have thought that the best service to run the intercity railcars would have been the 13:05 Connolly Rosslare and not the 16:40.

Colm Moore · 06-05-2008, 18:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThomasJ

Anyone notice what is missing? Interesting...

Thats its commuter not intercity?

ThomasJ · 06-05-2008, 18:46

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Originally Posted by Victor

Thats its commuter not intercity?

There was a distinctive one line in the press release last week that is missing from todays one. Got it yet?

Mark Gleeson · 06-05-2008, 18:50

http://www.railusers.ie/forum/showpo...53&postcount=7

The internal timetable clearly says it will be a 3 coach railcar

sublimity · 06-05-2008, 21:53

I'm angry with IE for lying to the public about todays inaugural 16.40 service to Gorey being operated by the 'new intercity railcars' but in a way i'm glad- it makes more sense for them to be used on the 1305 to rosslare as this is a full intercity journey. maybe they've changed their minds and decided to do this and keep the commuter train for the gorey service.

ThomasJ · 06-05-2008, 22:02

Nah i have my doubts. I have a feeling that that lone 29k set that has been haunting the sligo intercity line has finally been placed elsewhere .....

KSW · 06-05-2008, 23:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

http://www.railusers.ie/forum/showpo...53&postcount=7

The internal timetable clearly says it will be a 3 coach railcar

Well they made themselfs look bad today.. There was a guy with a camera at connolly then at Gorey Ger Lacey was there to take a picture for the Gorey Guardian but the face on him as with the guy who's in charge of the station was and me to...

Quote:

Originally Posted by sublimity

I'm angry with IE for lying to the public about todays inaugural 16.40 service to Gorey being operated by the 'new intercity railcars' but in a way i'm glad- it makes more sense for them to be used on the 1305 to rosslare as this is a full intercity journey. maybe they've changed their minds and decided to do this and keep the commuter train for the gorey service.

Did the Railcars operate the 13:05 Rosslare service?

Edward Ryan · 06-05-2008, 23:27

I travelled on the new 16:40 from Pearse this evening. No mention of it to be found on the platform monitors. It arrived 5 late and it was well loaded. I agree with KSW about the advertised 22 being a no show although I am glad that we do indeed have the new 1640 up and running.

I asked the ticket inspector where the new train was and he informed me that not all the Gorey line drivers are trained up on the new trains yet. Why is this taking so long?

Ed

ThomasJ · 07-05-2008, 17:02

Well the 29k set is still running on the sligo line. It operates the 9:05 ex connolly and the 13:00 return from sligo.

Given the return arrives back in connolly around 16:00 thats probably whats been used on the 16:40 gorey service

sublimity · 27-05-2008, 17:57

Any news regarding the 22ks on this line? No excuses now, with the new signalling. And when are the six-car sets being delivered???

ThomasJ · 27-05-2008, 18:26

Its not possible to put them on the rosslare intercity line given the connections with commuter services. December it looks like. [apart from the 16:40 connolly and return and the 06:00 gorey connolly]

I am not sure the platforms are big enough for six coach sets i personally dont think they [six coach sets] will be going on the rosslare line.

I reckon they will build the timetable around three three- coach 22k sets.

Mark Gleeson · 27-05-2008, 18:34

Once training is complete the 16:40 Dublin Gorey will be one of the new 3 car sets

Rosslare will see either 3 car or pairs of 3 cars, but not the full 6 car set with first class

sublimity · 27-05-2008, 19:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

Once training is complete the 16:40 Dublin Gorey will be one of the new 3 car sets

Rosslare will see either 3 car or pairs of 3 cars, but not the full 6 car set with first class

Well the least they can do is put a 2x3 car set on the rosslare line for the new timetable. Platforms should be long enough.If they could take a 7 coach mark II set plus the locomotive in the past...

Do you know have any of the 6 car sets with first class arrived in Ireland yet.If not when?

06-05-2008, 11:24	#1
sublimity Really Regular Poster Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dublin Posts: 309	Six-car sets Will there be a six car set allocated to the dublin-rosslare line? like 2x 3 car sets on the sligo line at the moment cos i know the proper six car sets haven't arrived yet. I Think at least one sevice to rosslare should be in a six car format. Really hope this happens. I presume the new sevice to gorey stating today is only a 3 car set?

06-05-2008, 11:33	#2
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	2 car cars, 1 6 car, as the line is somewhat shared with the Sligo service it might become 2 6 car and 1 3 car __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

06-05-2008, 15:44	#4
ThomasJ Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Clonsilla Posts: 2,812	So the Rosslare line will get six-coaches. Do all the stations have platforms to take them. Also is a 6-set 22k set much bigger if bigger than a six-coach a six-coach 2800 set? WRT to the Sligo line has it converted to 100% 22k operation today? Last edited by ThomasJ : 06-05-2008 at 15:47.

06-05-2008, 15:50	#5
KSW Really Regular Poster Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Rosslare Line Posts: 600	The 16.40 train is a 29000 what happened to "operated by the new intercity railcars" If IE can get a commuter train 4 this service then they are not short of trains. The more I think about it they done this on purpose to get passengers onto this service prove me wrong otherwise.. I am so frustrated with IE im sure the other guy is to with his camera. Well no more trains for me..... There was a 3x2 set pulled into platform 4 im sick.. this service never displayed on any of stations along the way Last edited by KSW : 27-05-2008 at 20:21.

06-05-2008, 16:14	#7
KSW Really Regular Poster Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Rosslare Line Posts: 600	*Smart s!! They waited until the service departed to announce Daily commuter service in otherwards they knew what train it was going to be.* Last edited by KSW : 07-05-2008 at 20:25.

06-05-2008, 17:29	#8
ThomasJ Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Clonsilla Posts: 2,812	i'm suprised that given the speed restriction that would have applied to that service. ie length of time it takes to get to bray, stuck behind darts etc I would have thought that the best service to run the intercity railcars would have been the 13:05 Connolly Rosslare and not the 16:40.

06-05-2008, 18:50	#11
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	http://www.railusers.ie/forum/showpo...53&postcount=7 The internal timetable clearly says it will be a 3 coach railcar __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

06-05-2008, 21:53	#12
sublimity Really Regular Poster Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dublin Posts: 309	I'm angry with IE for lying to the public about todays inaugural 16.40 service to Gorey being operated by the 'new intercity railcars' but in a way i'm glad- it makes more sense for them to be used on the 1305 to rosslare as this is a full intercity journey. maybe they've changed their minds and decided to do this and keep the commuter train for the gorey service.

06-05-2008, 22:02	#13
ThomasJ Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Clonsilla Posts: 2,812	Nah i have my doubts. I have a feeling that that lone 29k set that has been haunting the sligo intercity line has finally been placed elsewhere .....

06-05-2008, 23:27	#15
Edward Ryan Regular Poster Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gorey Posts: 74	I travelled on the new 16:40 from Pearse this evening. No mention of it to be found on the platform monitors. It arrived 5 late and it was well loaded. I agree with KSW about the advertised 22 being a no show although I am glad that we do indeed have the new 1640 up and running. I asked the ticket inspector where the new train was and he informed me that not all the Gorey line drivers are trained up on the new trains yet. Why is this taking so long? Ed

07-05-2008, 17:02	#16
ThomasJ Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Clonsilla Posts: 2,812	Well the 29k set is still running on the sligo line. It operates the 9:05 ex connolly and the 13:00 return from sligo. Given the return arrives back in connolly around 16:00 thats probably whats been used on the 16:40 gorey service

27-05-2008, 17:57	#17
sublimity Really Regular Poster Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dublin Posts: 309	Any news regarding the 22ks on this line? No excuses now, with the new signalling. And when are the six-car sets being delivered???

27-05-2008, 18:26	#18
ThomasJ Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Clonsilla Posts: 2,812	Its not possible to put them on the rosslare intercity line given the connections with commuter services. December it looks like. [apart from the 16:40 connolly and return and the 06:00 gorey connolly] I am not sure the platforms are big enough for six coach sets i personally dont think they [six coach sets] will be going on the rosslare line. I reckon they will build the timetable around three three- coach 22k sets. Last edited by ThomasJ : 27-05-2008 at 18:31.

27-05-2008, 18:34	#19
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Once training is complete the 16:40 Dublin Gorey will be one of the new 3 car sets Rosslare will see either 3 car or pairs of 3 cars, but not the full 6 car set with first class __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

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