Refreshment Rooms and Good Friday

[Underground]

From 2018 it looks like there will be no licensing restrictions on pubs and bars with regard to Good Friday.

But currently there still is. Can someone specifically point me to the regulations regarding railway station bars/refreshment rooms? I see a lot of conflicting information online, but I seem to remember reading somewhere that you only need to be in possession of a ticket for travel (any ticket: rail, bus, sail, fly) to be served.

[Jamie2k9]

You must have an Intercity ticket to be served in a station bar (AFAIK), on board catering have permission to serve alcoholic drinks also.

[Underground]

Originally Posted by Jamie2k9

You must have an Intercity ticket to be served in a station bar (AFAIK), on board catering have permission to serve alcoholic drinks also.

Have you a link to legislation to back that up? I'm pretty sure it's not correct as the lad with the hobby railway in Donegal was able to get a licence for his bar.
http://www.railusers.ie/forum/showthread.php?t=13078

Mark Gleeson's post further down says 5 mile minimum distance.

[Thomas J Stamp]

Originally Posted by Underground

Have you a link to legislation to back that up? I'm pretty sure it's not correct as the lad with the hobby railway in Donegal was able to get a licence for his bar.
http://www.railusers.ie/forum/showthread.php?t=13078

Mark Gleeson's post further down says 5 mile minimum distance.

you are mixing up too different things.

The man in Donegal went to court and got a licence which allowed him to open to sell/display alcohol on Good Friday. Once he has a license, you can buy alcohol from him - provided you are a bone fide traveler, which has been held to be in possession of a ticket to a non local destination. That is where the 5 mile thing comes form and is usually what the courts look at if the guards arrest you.

How the Donegal lad got around that, god knows, I assume no members of the GS have visited him. I also suspect that he simply got a normal pub or hotel licence anyway which are easy to get these days.

If you are that desperate for a pint on that day, I would recommend the Dog Show, its cheaper than the cost of an intercity ticket and probably in better surroundings.

[Underground]

The lad in Donegal applied for (and got) a licence for a railway refreshment room, which allows him to sell alcohol all year round.

Pub licences are €45k on the open market.

My question is solely about railway refreshment rooms and terms to be served alcohol. The regulations apply 7 days a week, but the only enforcement by Irish Rail is on Good Friday, but no-one seems to know for definite what the regulations are.

Is it 5 miles, or an intercity ticket, or neither? As I said my understanding that you had to be in possession of a ticket to travel at some point in the future, regardless of distance or mode, hence making you a "traveller".

[Jamie2k9]

My question is solely about railway refreshment rooms and terms to be served alcohol. The regulations apply 7 days a week, but the only enforcement by Irish Rail is on Good Friday, but no-one seems to know for definite what the regulations are.

Probably because nobody really cares or willing to take a case to have the legislation enforced.

Is it 5 miles, or an intercity ticket, or neither? As I said my understanding that you had to be in possession of a ticket to travel at some point in the future, regardless of distance or mode, hence making you a "traveller".

Turn up with a DART ticket and little chance of been served, most others should be fine.

[Thomas J Stamp]

Originally Posted by Underground

The lad in Donegal applied for (and got) a licence for a railway refreshment room, which allows him to sell alcohol all year round.

Pub licences are €45k on the open market.

My question is solely about railway refreshment rooms and terms to be served alcohol. The regulations apply 7 days a week, but the only enforcement by Irish Rail is on Good Friday, but no-one seems to know for definite what the regulations are.

Is it 5 miles, or an intercity ticket, or neither? As I said my understanding that you had to be in possession of a ticket to travel at some point in the future, regardless of distance or mode, hence making you a "traveller".

legislation starts here

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1...en/print#sec14

amended by section 5 of the 1962 act (but not that relevant)

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1...d/en/html#sec5

10 miles according to the law, so depends on where your DART ticket destination is.

how the lad in Donegal is getting away with it I dont know, you'll need to ask the local garda.