Whats wrong here? another classic ticketing goof up brought to you by the NTA

Mark Gleeson · 03-01-2014, 15:11

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Those geniuses in the NTA have made a series of disastrous errors

http://www.railusers.ie/news/news.ph...2014&no=1.html

comcor · 03-01-2014, 15:32

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Under Irish Rail's bye laws (SI 109 1984, section 6) it is deemed to be an act of fare evasion if a passenger purchases a ticket, but leaves the train at an earlier station where the fare is greater.

Am I right in thinking that you can use a ticket to alight at a station en route if you are intending to resume your journey later in the day?

That would seem to make that regulation unenforceable.

Colm Moore · 03-01-2014, 15:54

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Originally Posted by comcor

Am I right in thinking that you can use a ticket to alight at a station en route if you are intending to resume your journey later in the day?

That would seem to make that regulation unenforceable.

Intercity only.

Mark Gleeson · 03-01-2014, 16:27

Put it this way if you get stung under section 6, give us a call. Irish Rail management are not going to seek out people doing this.

It's all but impossible to convict on, but it does mean a pile of hassle under its sorted out.

The NTA are in head in sand mode and refused to commit to anything in our email/phone conversations.

Traincustomer · 03-01-2014, 21:30

Would there perhaps be merit in convening a multi-party working group for rail ticketing i.e. users, IÉ, NTA and any other relevant bodies.

Mark Gleeson · 04-01-2014, 00:09

NTA don't want to talk about ticketing.

ocian · 04-01-2014, 00:14

Mark if you get a chance can you also get the cross-route tickets checked, I think there is a similar problem here. My usual ticket from Arklow to Newbridge went up from €22.20 to €24.20, yet each individual ticket stayed the same (i.e. Arklow to Connolly is unchanged at €17.20, and Newbridge to City Centre is also unchanged €18.20). These are student return's by the way. So I wounder why the through ticket went up, I thought only season tickets on intercity routes were to go up this time? Could Irish Rail have sneaked in a fare rise on rare tickets in the hope no one would notice?

03-01-2014, 15:11	#1
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Whats wrong here? another classic ticketing goof up brought to you by the NTA Those geniuses in the NTA have made a series of disastrous errors http://www.railusers.ie/news/news.ph...2014&no=1.html __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

03-01-2014, 16:27	#4
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Put it this way if you get stung under section 6, give us a call. Irish Rail management are not going to seek out people doing this. It's all but impossible to convict on, but it does mean a pile of hassle under its sorted out. The NTA are in head in sand mode and refused to commit to anything in our email/phone conversations. __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

04-01-2014, 00:09	#6
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	NTA don't want to talk about ticketing. __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

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03-01-2014, 21:30	#5
Traincustomer Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: ar an traein Posts: 602	Would there perhaps be merit in convening a multi-party working group for rail ticketing i.e. users, IÉ, NTA and any other relevant bodies.

04-01-2014, 00:14	#7
ocian New to the board Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 17	Mark if you get a chance can you also get the cross-route tickets checked, I think there is a similar problem here. My usual ticket from Arklow to Newbridge went up from €22.20 to €24.20, yet each individual ticket stayed the same (i.e. Arklow to Connolly is unchanged at €17.20, and Newbridge to City Centre is also unchanged €18.20). These are student return's by the way. So I wounder why the through ticket went up, I thought only season tickets on intercity routes were to go up this time? Could Irish Rail have sneaked in a fare rise on rare tickets in the hope no one would notice?