Limerick - Waterford

[IckyThump]

ok i dont understand the new fares online. i cant seem to find how much the new ticket price is

it use to be

€12 one way adult
€20 day return
€23 Month return

just wondering if there is ay change to the price???? or the service for that matter

[Colm Moore]

By my reckoning, Limerick-Waterford is a H category fare (77.25 miles, 124km).

New Single Fare €18.50
New Day Return Fare €19.00
New Open Return Fare €26.50

The objective fare (what it will become in the future, adjusted for inflation and adjustments to subsidy) would be (€2.50+€0.23/km*35km+€0.23/km*89km*0.7 = €2.50+8.05+14.32 = €24.87. That is an access charge of €2.50 and a full per kilometre charge Limerick -Limerick Junction and a kilometre charge discounted as it is a economy route on the Limerick Junction-Waterford section

Objective Single Fare €24.87
Objective Day Return Fare €38.55 (155% of single)*
Objective Open Return Fare €42.28 (170% of single)*

These are maximum fares and discounts can be offered.


* The NTA document is slightly unclear on how return tickets should be priced, stating that "Single, Open (30% discount on two single fares) & Day Return (45% discount on two single fares) Fares" whereas, presumably they mean "Single, Open (30% discount on the return part) & Day Return (45% discount on the return part) Fares".

[IckyThump]

Originally Posted by Colm Moore

By my reckoning, Limerick-Waterford is a H category fare (77.25 miles, 124km).

New Single Fare €18.50
New Day Return Fare €19.00
New Open Return Fare €26.50

50 cent extra for a return??? wow looks like they didnt stop the ridiculous prices. guess mammy will be sad that ill be cutting back on the going home

thanks for the reply

[Mark Gleeson]

Fares from Feb 4th

Single €18.50
Day Return €19.00
Open Return €26.50

The day return will now be available on Fridays

My understanding of the new fares will be priced as following policy

Day return = (2 * Single Fare) less 45% = 20.35
Open return = (2 * Single Fare) less 30% = 25.90

This will be implemented progressively over several years on all routes. Once Irish Rail's ticketing system can cope a pure distance based calculation will be employed

2.50 fixed charge +
35.4km * 0.23per/km + (Limerick - Limerick Junc) = 8.14
89.3km * 0.23per/km * 0.7 (Limerick Junc - Waterford = 14.38

=> 25.02

Fares on the Limerick Junction - Waterford route are historically low hence they are going up. Fares on other routes are considered over priced and they have come down

[IckyThump]

thats a huge rise in cost though

im going to be paying over 50% exta on what i was paying

the only reason that day returns and open returns are 45% and 30% cheaper than 2 single tickets is that the single ticket has risen.

i understand that it may be as you call it an "underpriced" line but 50% is a huge rise

i wouldnt mind if the servvice was advanced by giving wifi or more trains possibly even 1 or 2 on a sunday. but this is ridiculous

[Destructix]

This will probably end up closing the section Limerick Junction-Waterford. Funny they talk about making the fares system more fair and based on distance yet it still costs less to travel from Waterford-Dublin than closer stations on the Dublin-Cork line and even some economy lines.

[Mark Gleeson]

We will have details on the exact fares later but I currently believe the following

Single approx 9.50
Day return 10 euro

The current 5.90 fare is withdrawn

[IckyThump]

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

We will have details on the exact fares later but I currently believe the following

Single approx 9.50
Day return 10 euro

The current 5.90 fare is withdrawn

limerick-waterford??

[Mark Gleeson]

Yes

We will have further details shortly

[Colm Moore]

Sorry, was this fare:

Limerick-Waterford or
Limerick Junction-Waterford ?

[Mark Gleeson]

The 20 euro student return applies on all routes except cross border

20 euro where the normal student fare was between 20 and 30 euro, 30 euro for all where the fare was more than 30

[comcor]

The online booking system is currently quoting a fare of €17.40 on Cork-Limerick and Cork-Killarney.

Is it usually that cheap or is it associated with this promotion.

At that rate, it's not very different from the bus to Limerick and happily beats the bus to Killarney

[Thomas Ralph]

This is all well and good until someone uses their ticket with a college ID to go home on Easter Monday and gets a penalty fare.

[IckyThump]

Originally Posted by Thomas Ralph

This is all well and good until someone uses their ticket with a college ID to go home on Easter Monday and gets a penalty fare.

well hopefully they will very much highlight the fact college id's cant be used after that date or else they will continue down the road of allowing valid college id's

i know that they make money from the travel id's but maybe just maybe common sense will prevail

apart from the huge irritation of the new limerick-waterford full fare im impressed with what they are trying to do

[Traincustomer]

From IÉ website (http://www.irishrail.ie/cat_news.jsp?i=4498&p=116&n=237:

Track Works - Tipperary/Clonmel - Monday 5th - Friday 9th March - Part bus substitutions

02 March 2012

Due to track works between Tipperary and Clonmel the following services will have part bus substitutions:

11.40hrs service from Waterford to Limerick Junction will operate to Clonmel only. Bus transfers will operate from Clonmel to Limerick Junction.

13.55hrs service from Limerick Junction to Waterford will be bus transfers from Limerick Junction to Clonmel and by train from Clonmel to Waterford. Bus will depart Limerick Junction at 13.55hrs. Train will depart Clonmel at 14.55hrs.

Please note a 25 - 35 minute delay may occur.

Iarnród Éireann regrets any inconvenience this may cause.