Why do the Cork-Dublin train have lower spec carriages than Heuston-Newbridge trains?

gaiusc · 30-08-2010, 19:26

I get the Heuston-Newbridge train most mornings and I love the AC power point under the table (all carriages) but recently got the Cork-Dublin train and was very surprised not to see the same facility in the standard carriages?

Why is that I wonder? Surely the main intercity trains should be higher spec than commuter trains?

Colm Moore · 30-08-2010, 19:30

They are of a slightly older design.

maitias · 30-08-2010, 20:35

There is an AC unit at the end of every carriage (across from the WC doors) and I think another one near the seats 1-8. Im not aware of any other AC unit in the main carriages but someone else maybe able to provide more information.
First does have an AC unit at every table.

Mark Gleeson · 30-08-2010, 20:52

Behind seats 5/6 in standard have a power socket

The Dublin Cork train is in theory designed to a higher specification than the rest of the fleet, build quality lets it down

robert muldoon · 06-03-2012, 23:02

Am sure this has been brought up before but i cant find it

Would someone please give me a satisfactory answer as to why there are not more stops at Kildare for intercity trains to cork and vice versa
A driver in Heuston told me it was something to do with the model of train thats used as it takes too long to stop. Why the big population of Co Kildare has to travel to Dublin or portlaoishe to get a train to cork is unbelievable!! if they cant use the Mark 2 trains then use other ones

Carrage A · 06-03-2012, 23:14

The cork trains would lose time by going from 90-100 mph to stopping and then building it back up again. I could see up to 5 mins being wasted.

I do find the Mark 4 stop more gradually compared to the 22000 that once the brakes are put on the speed drops very fast. Most lightly to do with the 22000 being DMU and the Mark 4 being push/pull.

Colm Moore · 07-03-2012, 01:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by robert muldoon

Would someone please give me a satisfactory answer as to why there are not more stops at Kildare for intercity trains to cork and vice versa

Another factor is that most people making trips from Kildare will be heading to Dublin, not Cork.

30-08-2010, 19:26	#1
gaiusc New to the board Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dublin Posts: 5	Why do the Cork-Dublin train have lower spec carriages than Heuston-Newbridge trains? I get the Heuston-Newbridge train most mornings and I love the AC power point under the table (all carriages) but recently got the Cork-Dublin train and was very surprised not to see the same facility in the standard carriages? Why is that I wonder? Surely the main intercity trains should be higher spec than commuter trains?

30-08-2010, 19:30	#2
Colm Moore Local Liaison Officer Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,442	They are of a slightly older design. __________________

30-08-2010, 20:52	#4
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Behind seats 5/6 in standard have a power socket The Dublin Cork train is in theory designed to a higher specification than the rest of the fleet, build quality lets it down __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

06-03-2012, 23:02	#5
robert muldoon New to the board Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 5	Kildare to Cork Am sure this has been brought up before but i cant find it Would someone please give me a satisfactory answer as to why there are not more stops at Kildare for intercity trains to cork and vice versa A driver in Heuston told me it was something to do with the model of train thats used as it takes too long to stop. Why the big population of Co Kildare has to travel to Dublin or portlaoishe to get a train to cork is unbelievable!! if they cant use the Mark 2 trains then use other ones

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30-08-2010, 20:35	#3
maitias New to the board Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Somewhere on the Cork to Dublin mainline Posts: 9	There is an AC unit at the end of every carriage (across from the WC doors) and I think another one near the seats 1-8. Im not aware of any other AC unit in the main carriages but someone else maybe able to provide more information. First does have an AC unit at every table.

06-03-2012, 23:14	#6
Carrage A Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 30	The cork trains would lose time by going from 90-100 mph to stopping and then building it back up again. I could see up to 5 mins being wasted. I do find the Mark 4 stop more gradually compared to the 22000 that once the brakes are put on the speed drops very fast. Most lightly to do with the 22000 being DMU and the Mark 4 being push/pull.