Letter in the metro

Trampas · 28-01-2010, 13:38

There was a letter in the metro yesterday suggestion why don't IR have hubs in Greystones (Bray might be better), Malahide where the communter trains stopped there and people transfer onto a Dart to continue their journey.

I can understand what they are saying as it should help with the running of the darts

Mark Gleeson · 28-01-2010, 13:53

The theory is nice, but we ain't enough DART's and it would make slow journeys even slower

Just imagine a thousand people getting off a train at Malahide crossing a bridge and getting on another train.

True this is the model used in London and elsewhere but the change occurs in the city centre into an extensive underground network

James Shields · 29-01-2010, 17:45

This model can't be compared to London, where they actually have a transport system. Yes, people get a train into one station then change to a tube or other transport mode, but it's totally different to change in a big city station where you normally have a choice of tube lines, so most people can get to work with a single change to a line with a train every couple of minutes. They also don't schedule outer commuter trains right behind trains stopping at all stations.

Colm Moore · 29-01-2010, 23:40

I think the only time it would work would be off peak where the DART wouldn't be busy and you want to maximise the availability of diesel stock for the next rush hour.

iridium · 31-01-2010, 00:12

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Originally Posted by Victor

I think the only time it would work would be off peak where the DART wouldn't be busty and you want to maximise the availability of diesel stock for hte next rush hour.

Aww man, I hate it when the DART isn't busty!

dowlingm · 06-02-2010, 23:05

Plus you'd need a traincare depot on the other outside lines in places like Mullingar and Gorey. Not saying this is a bad idea per se, but that's the situation because the diesels will need to be refuelled and serviced.

It's really hard to say how much this will help when DART is still operated with inadequate signalling and grade crossings or bridges which are prone to disruption, not to mention short sets and Alstom ornaments in Fairview.

In hindsight the 22K commuter order was a bad plan - we should have bought these.

sean · 07-02-2010, 11:26

That might not have been a bad idea

28-01-2010, 13:38	#1
Trampas Really Regular Poster Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 242	Letter in the metro There was a letter in the metro yesterday suggestion why don't IR have hubs in Greystones (Bray might be better), Malahide where the communter trains stopped there and people transfer onto a Dart to continue their journey. I can understand what they are saying as it should help with the running of the darts

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Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	The theory is nice, but we ain't enough DART's and it would make slow journeys even slower Just imagine a thousand people getting off a train at Malahide crossing a bridge and getting on another train. True this is the model used in London and elsewhere but the change occurs in the city centre into an extensive underground network __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

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Colm Moore Local Liaison Officer Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,442	I think the only time it would work would be off peak where the DART wouldn't be busy and you want to maximise the availability of diesel stock for the next rush hour. __________________ Last edited by Colm Moore : 31-01-2010 at 08:14.

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29-01-2010, 17:45	#3
James Shields Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Drogheda, Ireland Posts: 1,275	This model can't be compared to London, where they actually have a transport system. Yes, people get a train into one station then change to a tube or other transport mode, but it's totally different to change in a big city station where you normally have a choice of tube lines, so most people can get to work with a single change to a line with a train every couple of minutes. They also don't schedule outer commuter trains right behind trains stopping at all stations.

06-02-2010, 23:05	#6
dowlingm Really Really Regluar Poster Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,371	Plus you'd need a traincare depot on the other outside lines in places like Mullingar and Gorey. Not saying this is a bad idea per se, but that's the situation because the diesels will need to be refuelled and serviced. It's really hard to say how much this will help when DART is still operated with inadequate signalling and grade crossings or bridges which are prone to disruption, not to mention short sets and Alstom ornaments in Fairview. In hindsight the 22K commuter order was a bad plan - we should have bought these.

07-02-2010, 11:26	#7
sean Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Dublin Posts: 707	That might not have been a bad idea