Should irish rails reference to rosslare europort be removed ?

ThomasJ · 14-09-2009, 17:38

Am i the only one that thinks it is misleading that irish rail still mentions that it goes to rosslare europort ?

They dont ! Not anymore ! There is a considerable walk for passengers to get from the train station to the port.

Croke park maybe five minutes walk from drumcondra. Should we rename drumcondra station croke park ?

In my opinion referring to the port is false advertising and is misleading the passenger.
What do you folks think ?

Traincustomer · 14-09-2009, 21:18

An interesting point. Having done this walk twice this year - on both occasions arriving by train - once to the ferry and once for the Dublin Express coach to return homewards, it does take around seven minutes or so. The station is on the very edge of what is considered the port area, beside the Bus Éireann Garage. Perhaps "Rosslare Harbour" would be more apt.

Curiously timetables for Bus Éireann routes 002, 003, 040, 132, 385 and 890 use "Rosslare Harbour" though BÉ would be fully justified in using "Rosslare Europort" as the coach bays are immediately in front of the terminal.

Thankfully, both occasions were calm and dry; even as a user-enthusiast I wouldn't enjoy the walk in the rain and wind.

The reasons that were cited for moving the station have certain validity but suggest a general lack of confidence amongst the powers that be in the whole area of rail-ferry integration.

The negative attitude/explanation of ah sure not that many people use the train to/from the ferry is not helpful, at the end of the day people are using it and it is a public service; if one doesn't like that way of travel they don't need to use it.

Personally I feel that the tracks should be reinstated at the terminal, though I can't see this happening.

JamesK · 22-09-2009, 20:09

In my opinion and at the very least, the relevant Irish Rail schedules should carry an advisory to the effect that 'passengers intending to transfer between the railway station and the ferry terminal at Rosslare Europort should note that this involves an uncovered walk of c. seven minutes'.

On the last occasion that I arrived at Rosslare Europort (from Limerick Junction), some elderly British travellers were somewhat distressed to find that they would have to carry their baggage some distance to reach the ferry. Fortunately for them, it was a fine evening.

Eddie · 23-12-2009, 23:59

Aren't the Irish Tourist board supposed to be working with Irish Rail with regard to some innovative ways of encouraging foreign / British visitors to Ireland?

Perhaps they could think of running trains to Rosslare that connect with the morning and evening UK ferry times, as a start. It's unbelievable that Irish Rail own this port but run the trains independently of the ferry companies.

And this uncovered walkway hardly sounds welcoming.

dowlingm · 24-12-2009, 03:42

The only thing IE should do with Rosslare Port is find some sucker to take it off their hands. Why IE owns a port that isn't a railhead is beyond me.

Mark Gleeson · 24-12-2009, 11:49

Ive said this numerous times

The train times on the Rosslare line are broadly the same as 30+ years ago, in fact arrivals from Dublin are all earlier than before, they meet the requirements of the peak traffic flows, not the 6 or so foot passengers per ferry that is now seen in Rosslare. There are more services Rosslare Dublin now than in any time in recent history, but they are setup to meet the needs of the public, so its standing room only at times

In contrast Dun Laoghaire which as excellent train connections has gone from 5 sailings a day to 1 and from February the HSS is being replaced with a traditional slow ferry, the business just isn't there anymore

14-09-2009, 17:38	#1
ThomasJ Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Clonsilla Posts: 2,812	Should irish rails reference to rosslare europort be removed ? Am i the only one that thinks it is misleading that irish rail still mentions that it goes to rosslare europort ? They dont ! Not anymore ! There is a considerable walk for passengers to get from the train station to the port. Croke park maybe five minutes walk from drumcondra. Should we rename drumcondra station croke park ? In my opinion referring to the port is false advertising and is misleading the passenger. What do you folks think ?

24-12-2009, 11:49	#6
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Ive said this numerous times The train times on the Rosslare line are broadly the same as 30+ years ago, in fact arrivals from Dublin are all earlier than before, they meet the requirements of the peak traffic flows, not the 6 or so foot passengers per ferry that is now seen in Rosslare. There are more services Rosslare Dublin now than in any time in recent history, but they are setup to meet the needs of the public, so its standing room only at times In contrast Dun Laoghaire which as excellent train connections has gone from 5 sailings a day to 1 and from February the HSS is being replaced with a traditional slow ferry, the business just isn't there anymore __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

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14-09-2009, 21:18	#2
Traincustomer Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: ar an traein Posts: 602	An interesting point. Having done this walk twice this year - on both occasions arriving by train - once to the ferry and once for the Dublin Express coach to return homewards, it does take around seven minutes or so. The station is on the very edge of what is considered the port area, beside the Bus Éireann Garage. Perhaps "Rosslare Harbour" would be more apt. Curiously timetables for Bus Éireann routes 002, 003, 040, 132, 385 and 890 use "Rosslare Harbour" though BÉ would be fully justified in using "Rosslare Europort" as the coach bays are immediately in front of the terminal. Thankfully, both occasions were calm and dry; even as a user-enthusiast I wouldn't enjoy the walk in the rain and wind. The reasons that were cited for moving the station have certain validity but suggest a general lack of confidence amongst the powers that be in the whole area of rail-ferry integration. The negative attitude/explanation of ah sure not that many people use the train to/from the ferry is not helpful, at the end of the day people are using it and it is a public service; if one doesn't like that way of travel they don't need to use it. Personally I feel that the tracks should be reinstated at the terminal, though I can't see this happening.

22-09-2009, 20:09	#3
JamesK New to the board Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 24	In my opinion and at the very least, the relevant Irish Rail schedules should carry an advisory to the effect that 'passengers intending to transfer between the railway station and the ferry terminal at Rosslare Europort should note that this involves an uncovered walk of c. seven minutes'. On the last occasion that I arrived at Rosslare Europort (from Limerick Junction), some elderly British travellers were somewhat distressed to find that they would have to carry their baggage some distance to reach the ferry. Fortunately for them, it was a fine evening.

23-12-2009, 23:59	#4
Eddie Really Regular Poster Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 258	Aren't the Irish Tourist board supposed to be working with Irish Rail with regard to some innovative ways of encouraging foreign / British visitors to Ireland? Perhaps they could think of running trains to Rosslare that connect with the morning and evening UK ferry times, as a start. It's unbelievable that Irish Rail own this port but run the trains independently of the ferry companies. And this uncovered walkway hardly sounds welcoming.

24-12-2009, 03:42	#5
dowlingm Really Really Regluar Poster Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,371	The only thing IE should do with Rosslare Port is find some sucker to take it off their hands. Why IE owns a port that isn't a railhead is beyond me.