Phoenix Park Tunnel - a wasted resource?

Navan Junction · 22-05-2006, 16:42

When I got off the train following my run to Kildare on the new CDE/Mark VI today, I noticed the Phoenix park tunnel lying to idle to passenger traffic as usual.

What are the issues around reopening this to passenger traffic?

Mark Gleeson · 22-05-2006, 16:47

We got a plan, what we needed was a photo, we shall have some fun

Next train through 16:10 - 16:20 24th May to Connolly re Soccer Match

Derek Wheeler · 22-05-2006, 17:01

Best of all there's one through it from Kildare next Sunday. A GAA special.

Jimbo · 02-06-2006, 14:42

What's the plan? Did you get a photo? Why has it takin til now to get a photo?

Mark Gleeson · 02-06-2006, 14:50

We have plently of photos, its a photo of a train with fare paying passengers on a weekday that we search for

comcor · 23-01-2012, 08:30

I wonder will be get to see a rare passenger service through it in conjunction with the Munster-Ulster Heineken Cup QF.

I guess Belfast-Limerick could be done in about 4 1/2 hours?

ACustomer · 23-01-2012, 10:09

comcor: unfortunately Belfast-Limerick is almost impossible because no rolling stock is cleared for the entire route. The 22ks which were supposed to ATP-equipped for NI operations have never been route-tested as far as I am aware.

In the good old days you could run anything anywhere. now everything s balkanised. Progress?

comcor · 23-01-2012, 10:23

I thought there were some Newry services operated by 22K. Or is there an exception made to allow them to run to the first station beyond the border. I know that's not uncommon in some European countries (e.g. Belgian trains running to Rosendaal or French trains running to Ventimiglia).

I suppose it shouldn't surprise me, although I am marginally surprised that the DeDietrich sets can't operate on routes out of Heuston.

dowlingm · 27-01-2012, 00:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACustomer

comcor: unfortunately Belfast-Limerick is almost impossible because no rolling stock is cleared for the entire route

29K? (Tongue in cheek)

Of course, if right was right there should be up to 18 carriages available as 3 consists - sets 22001-06. That the TPWSed sets are now four years in service (22002 and 22006 entered service in December 2007) and not yet available for Belfast service is one of the great mysteries of our times.

Quote:

Originally Posted by comcor

I thought there were some Newry services operated by 22K.

The morning commuter is still 29K to my knowledge.

22-05-2006, 16:42	#1
Navan Junction Really Regular Poster Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Navan Posts: 305	Phoenix Park Tunnel - a wasted resource? When I got off the train following my run to Kildare on the new CDE/Mark VI today, I noticed the Phoenix park tunnel lying to idle to passenger traffic as usual. What are the issues around reopening this to passenger traffic?

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22-05-2006, 16:47	#2
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	We got a plan, what we needed was a photo, we shall have some fun Next train through 16:10 - 16:20 24th May to Connolly re Soccer Match

22-05-2006, 17:01	#3
Derek Wheeler Registered user Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Kildare Posts: 1,555	Best of all there's one through it from Kildare next Sunday. A GAA special.

02-06-2006, 14:42	#4
Jimbo New to the board Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 20	What's the plan? Did you get a photo? Why has it takin til now to get a photo?

02-06-2006, 14:50	#5
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	We have plently of photos, its a photo of a train with fare paying passengers on a weekday that we search for

23-01-2012, 08:30	#6
comcor Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cork-Dublin, Cork Commuter and occasionally DART and Dublin-Wexford Posts: 855	I wonder will be get to see a rare passenger service through it in conjunction with the Munster-Ulster Heineken Cup QF. I guess Belfast-Limerick could be done in about 4 1/2 hours?

23-01-2012, 10:09	#7
ACustomer Really Regular Poster Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 767	comcor: unfortunately Belfast-Limerick is almost impossible because no rolling stock is cleared for the entire route. The 22ks which were supposed to ATP-equipped for NI operations have never been route-tested as far as I am aware. In the good old days you could run anything anywhere. now everything s balkanised. Progress?

23-01-2012, 10:23	#8
comcor Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cork-Dublin, Cork Commuter and occasionally DART and Dublin-Wexford Posts: 855	I thought there were some Newry services operated by 22K. Or is there an exception made to allow them to run to the first station beyond the border. I know that's not uncommon in some European countries (e.g. Belgian trains running to Rosendaal or French trains running to Ventimiglia). I suppose it shouldn't surprise me, although I am marginally surprised that the DeDietrich sets can't operate on routes out of Heuston.