How early can I get to / from ...

Colm Moore · 17-03-2012, 03:01

Dublin

comcor · 17-03-2012, 09:35

The fact that you can't make it to any of the provincial cities from Dublin before 9am is nothing short of a disgrace. I know demand is thin, but would a 3 car ICR with a connection to Limerick kill? There's already an 8am Limeric Junction-Limerick, so just get there before that.

If it leaves a set out of place, create a 10am Cork-Tralee and 12:15pm Tralee-Dublin direct.

I'd hate to see the maps for other Irish cities. They wouldn't be pretty, although Limerick might not be the worst. 9am should at least be possible from Cork and Galway.

Colm Moore · 17-03-2012, 18:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by comcor

I'd hate to see the maps for other Irish cities.

I'm working on them.

Inniskeen · 17-03-2012, 20:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by comcor

The fact that you can't make it to any of the provincial cities from Dublin before 9am is nothing short of a disgrace. I know demand is thin, but would a 3 car ICR with a connection to Limerick kill? There's already an 8am Limeric Junction-Limerick, so just get there before that.

If it leaves a set out of place, create a 10am Cork-Tralee and 12:15pm Tralee-Dublin direct.

I'd hate to see the maps for other Irish cities. They wouldn't be pretty, although Limerick might not be the worst. 9am should at least be possible from Cork and Galway.

Perhaps the most farcical of the lot is that you can't reach Dublin from Belfast (or vice versa) before 0900.

Colm Moore · 17-03-2012, 23:45

Note that the journey planner often includes excessive amounts of time for layovers / transfers, especially Connolly-Heuston, but also at some other locations. I have included a reasonable amount of time for such transfers, but it doesn't allow for the train on the first service to be late, e.g. I have included Cork-Waterford to arrive at 09:43 via Newbridge, where there is only 4 minute for the connection at Newbridge. Given the tight timings at intermediate stops, this may not be possible all of the time.

2200DMU · 17-03-2012, 23:45

Colm Moore I think you could put the 07.20 to Kilkenny into the (before 09.00 band) as it arrives at 09.01.

Colm Moore · 17-03-2012, 23:54

I see what you are saying, but it wouldn't be accurate. To a degree, using the bands is unfair in a small number of cases like this, e.g. Cork-Dublin is 0810, which puts it into the Before 0900 band by 50 minutes.

Colm Moore · 18-03-2012, 14:39

Not that the connection when coming from Clongriffin-Dundalk, with 36 minutes (from Connolly) for the DART stations and 31 minutes (from Connolly) for the Commuter stations. At 29 minutes (from Connolly), the connections from Maynooth-Drumcondra is too tight, although exactly where one draws the line is another matter.

Colm Moore · 19-03-2012, 23:19

Waterford.

If anyone spots an error or a marginal case, do let me know

Colm Moore · 19-03-2012, 23:20

Limerick

Colm Moore · 29-03-2012, 22:34

I nearly forgot about these two.

17-03-2012, 03:01	#1
Colm Moore Local Liaison Officer Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,442	How early can I get to / from ... Dublin Attached Thumbnails __________________

17-03-2012, 23:45	#5
Colm Moore Local Liaison Officer Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,442	Cork Note that the journey planner often includes excessive amounts of time for layovers / transfers, especially Connolly-Heuston, but also at some other locations. I have included a reasonable amount of time for such transfers, but it doesn't allow for the train on the first service to be late, e.g. I have included Cork-Waterford to arrive at 09:43 via Newbridge, where there is only 4 minute for the connection at Newbridge. Given the tight timings at intermediate stops, this may not be possible all of the time. Attached Thumbnails __________________

17-03-2012, 23:54	#7
Colm Moore Local Liaison Officer Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,442	I see what you are saying, but it wouldn't be accurate. To a degree, using the bands is unfair in a small number of cases like this, e.g. Cork-Dublin is 0810, which puts it into the Before 0900 band by 50 minutes. __________________

18-03-2012, 14:39	#8
Colm Moore Local Liaison Officer Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,442	Galway Not that the connection when coming from Clongriffin-Dundalk, with 36 minutes (from Connolly) for the DART stations and 31 minutes (from Connolly) for the Commuter stations. At 29 minutes (from Connolly), the connections from Maynooth-Drumcondra is too tight, although exactly where one draws the line is another matter. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Last edited by Colm Moore : 18-03-2012 at 14:46.

19-03-2012, 23:19	#9
Colm Moore Local Liaison Officer Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,442	Waterford Waterford. If anyone spots an error or a marginal case, do let me know Attached Thumbnails __________________

17-03-2012, 09:35	#2
comcor Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cork-Dublin, Cork Commuter and occasionally DART and Dublin-Wexford Posts: 855	The fact that you can't make it to any of the provincial cities from Dublin before 9am is nothing short of a disgrace. I know demand is thin, but would a 3 car ICR with a connection to Limerick kill? There's already an 8am Limeric Junction-Limerick, so just get there before that. If it leaves a set out of place, create a 10am Cork-Tralee and 12:15pm Tralee-Dublin direct. I'd hate to see the maps for other Irish cities. They wouldn't be pretty, although Limerick might not be the worst. 9am should at least be possible from Cork and Galway.

17-03-2012, 23:45	#6
2200DMU Regular Poster Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 66	Colm Moore I think you could put the 07.20 to Kilkenny into the (before 09.00 band) as it arrives at 09.01.

19-03-2012, 23:20	#10
Colm Moore Local Liaison Officer Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,442	Limerick Limerick Attached Thumbnails __________________

29-03-2012, 22:34	#11
Colm Moore Local Liaison Officer Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,442	Belfast I nearly forgot about these two. Attached Thumbnails __________________

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