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MrX · 01-07-2006, 19:46

The photos definitely don't do it justice. It's a very impressive train interior when you actually get inside it and there's no feel of "cheap" about it. Everything's top notch. The colour scheme's definitely a whole lot brighter than the Enterprise, but that's not a bad thing. It's much more suitable for the generally dismal Irish climate. Likewise, there's a bluish daylight tint to the windows that seems to create the perfect balance of shade and brightness. It's a bit like mildly blue tinted sunglasses (shades). The Enterprise and the MK3 Internationals (Cu na Mara) are both absolutely depressing trains to be on board. The enterprise seems to suffer from french beige interior design syndrome. It's just dull and dark and poorly lit.

Don't forget the CDE was designed by Design Triangle, the same people who styled the heathrow express.

Heathrow express visualisation:

The CDE has quit a similar feel, just more "intercity"

Link to CDE prototype (without the new livery)
http://www.designtriangle.com/images/Picture_3328.jpg

The original styling sketches in old livery.

Design triangle do pretty much everything right down to the carpet and and seating material patterns. It's a very very classy job. The CityGold coaches are absolutely stunning. They're nicer than the TGV business class stuff I've been on in France and a whole lot better styled than any of the new UK stuff.

The enterprise didn't really get that kind of styling.

The MK3 internationals seem to have been designed for a MUCH brigher climate. The window tints are far too strong and the lighting's not a whole lot better than a candle. They could do with an entirely new lighting system and having their tinted windows replaced.

Graham,

The Intercity DMUs (Diesel Multiple Units) are on order, no one has seen one yet. They're the signle biggest order of trains in CIE's history and, when the full fleet arrives, will replace pretty much everything except he CDE and Enterprise. i.e. they'll operate on all other mainlines.

They're ordered from Mistui of Japan who have subcontracted to Tokyu car (japan) and Rotem (South Korea). Iarnrod Eireann has put in a pretty high specification, similar to the CDE although with a 160km/h design max speed.
ínitially 120 of them at a cost of €262 --- the order was then extended to include sufficient cars for the Sligo and Roslaire lines too.

According to the Rotem website, delivery's expected to commence this November.

http://www.rotem.co.kr/
http://www.tokyu-car.co.jp/eng/index.html

Further info about the CDE can be found at :http://www.caf.net/ingles/productos/...d=611&sec=desc

Also, while it may not be carpet-clad, it is well carpeted throughout.

Does anyone have enterprise interior pics to contrast?

01-07-2006, 19:46	#113
MrX Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 585	The photos definitely don't do it justice. It's a very impressive train interior when you actually get inside it and there's no feel of "cheap" about it. Everything's top notch. The colour scheme's definitely a whole lot brighter than the Enterprise, but that's not a bad thing. It's much more suitable for the generally dismal Irish climate. Likewise, there's a bluish daylight tint to the windows that seems to create the perfect balance of shade and brightness. It's a bit like mildly blue tinted sunglasses (shades). The Enterprise and the MK3 Internationals (Cu na Mara) are both absolutely depressing trains to be on board. The enterprise seems to suffer from french beige interior design syndrome. It's just dull and dark and poorly lit. Don't forget the CDE was designed by Design Triangle, the same people who styled the heathrow express. Heathrow express visualisation: The CDE has quit a similar feel, just more "intercity" Link to CDE prototype (without the new livery) http://www.designtriangle.com/images/Picture_3328.jpg The original styling sketches in old livery. Design triangle do pretty much everything right down to the carpet and and seating material patterns. It's a very very classy job. The CityGold coaches are absolutely stunning. They're nicer than the TGV business class stuff I've been on in France and a whole lot better styled than any of the new UK stuff. The enterprise didn't really get that kind of styling. The MK3 internationals seem to have been designed for a MUCH brigher climate. The window tints are far too strong and the lighting's not a whole lot better than a candle. They could do with an entirely new lighting system and having their tinted windows replaced. Graham, The Intercity DMUs (Diesel Multiple Units) are on order, no one has seen one yet. They're the signle biggest order of trains in CIE's history and, when the full fleet arrives, will replace pretty much everything except he CDE and Enterprise. i.e. they'll operate on all other mainlines. They're ordered from Mistui of Japan who have subcontracted to Tokyu car (japan) and Rotem (South Korea). Iarnrod Eireann has put in a pretty high specification, similar to the CDE although with a 160km/h design max speed. ínitially 120 of them at a cost of €262 --- the order was then extended to include sufficient cars for the Sligo and Roslaire lines too. According to the Rotem website, delivery's expected to commence this November. http://www.rotem.co.kr/ http://www.tokyu-car.co.jp/eng/index.html Further info about the CDE can be found at :http://www.caf.net/ingles/productos/...d=611&sec=desc Also, while it may not be carpet-clad, it is well carpeted throughout. Does anyone have enterprise interior pics to contrast? Last edited by MrX : 02-07-2006 at 12:57.