Just a few comments
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Originally Posted by Nigel Fitzgricer
Dublin's Luas (and this is what I was talking about) has been cited as a trend setter by city councils in Liverpool, Edinburough and even Belfast.
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Funny how British and Irish cities always look to other British and Irish cities for inspiration. In transport evolutionary terms this is called in-breeding. In reality, Dublin's Luas is not a trend setter, but just following the crowd. Just a few examples in France:
Orléans (2000):
www.semtao.fr
Bordeaux (2003):
www.infotbc.com
Strasbourg - 4 lines (1994-2000):
www.cts-strasbourg.fr
And all the rest:
http://world.nycsubway.org/eu/index.html
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The Paris Metro was not built in desparation to solve a traffic and planning crisis like Dublin - they had time to do it the way they wanted.
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Exactly!! You hit the nail on the head! No transport policy should ever be built in desperation to solve a traffic and planning crisis! That's the problem - the government and other pretentious know-it-alls are doing exactly that because they got caught sitting on their backsides, instead of looking to the future, and always being ahead of the game.
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Dublin is years behind Paris for many reasons and not because they are genius and we Irish are always thickos
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Somewhat true. But some of our greatest transport problems are caused by our inability (or at least our government's/CIE's inability) to understand basic concepts such as efficient ticketing and integration, as well as some dodgy infrastructure ideas (Port tunnel?? separated tramlines? utterly disgraceful signage - both on our road and public transport network).
Just my two cents.