[13-14/07/2010] Enterprise services
 

irish rail are saying that enterprise services are running between portadown and dublin only

Bus transfers are operating from newry for belfast passengers

What is deeply worrying is the bbc are saying in the height of the parade trouble yesterday, there was an attempt to hijack and set fire to an enterprise train in lurgan yesterday and the driver had just managed to pull off.

They are saying translink are not taking that risk at the moment and rightly so!http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/northern_...d/10609926.stm

The video post incident looks extremely dodgy

http://www.u.tv/News/Trouble-flares-...e-eb091bf4d146

Certainly does!

Theres a candidate for a bridge.

from translink http://www.translink.co.uk/latesttra...p#story_184114

Some delays to Enterprise and Northern line commuter services.

http://www.irishrail.ie/news_centre/travel_alerts.asp?action=view&news_id=847

did anyone listen to liveline? Apparently peoples luggage was stolen and burnt according to boards.ie and barry kenny was on liveline

I see a massive lawsuit here...

It wasn't a terrorist incident so CIV and EC/1371/2007 applies and certain requirements must be satisfied

Someone opened a door and I don't think the scumbags know the emergency door release. Even if a gun was present, from track side you are extremely secure position onboard. The scumbags tried to knock in the windscreen but it held

No sign of any police or army, and the train was stationary for quite a while thats not good enough. That said management of Irish Rail and Translink need a risk assessment, Lurgan was going to be a problem

Good old CIV, Extract from Uniform Rules concerning the contract for international carriage of passengers and luggage by rail (CIV)

From that wording ("registered luggage") it looks like people won't be covered unless they checked in luggage - if that's still possible these days.

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Ah but registered is luggage stored by the railway company, not stuff you carry yourself

Under the law the fact you had no ticket for it doesn't release the railway company. Legally if the luggage was in the care of the company it is deemed registered

Listened to it and its not clear

1. How the scumbags accessed the train is unclear, it was through the offside cab door, which should have been locked

2. After gaining entry the secure luggage area in the control car was emptied. The door between the luggage and first class area is a security door as previously it was used to carry mail

3. The passenger area remained secure. From the video I have a single window in the first class coach/control car was damaged but intact. The secondman side windscreen on the control car had damage from several rocks thrown at it

4. Usual incompetent delivery of information in Connolly, staff standing around not knowing what was going on and a information display saying the train was on time.

5. How the train was brought to a halt in the first place is question the line is in a curve at the point in question so the driver wouldn't have a clear line of sight and certainly wouldn't be able to stop

The RTE report doesn't shed very much more light on it:
As regards the offside door, I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was unlocked- I often see trains coming out of Pearse with the cab doors for cabs sandwiched in a formation wide open from the driver having changed ends, and the interior cab doors don't seem to be locked either in my experience.

Perhaps they interfered with the barriers and, if thebarriers failed to close properly, that would have given the driver a caution aspect at the distant signal ?

Was the driver not in that DVT cab where they gained entry?

The passenger doors on the train are locked and can be only be unlocked when stationary using a guards key from a coach end control panel or by the driver from the locomotive or control car. They can be opened from outside if you know how

Entry was via the offside control car cab door, where the driver was.

Had it been a signaling stop, the train would have stopped 200m from the crossing.

16:43 - Portadown-Dublin Connolly running 23 minutes late at Balbriggan

http://irishrail.ie/your_journey/results.asp

First of all: Christ - is it any wonder I left.

Mark, I understand from the pictures the train was travelling southbound. Is it possible the signal just north of Lurgan stopped the train? It slows every local train to a stop while the barriers come down on the Antrim Road and Lake Street. I've never been sure if it affects the Enterprise in the same way, since I'm never on the Enterprise the whole way from Belfast.

It does seem the barriers were closed correctly.

how many passengers were on this train mark?

Also with regards to the cross-border commitee can this issue be raised given there is constant disruption in lurgan before yesterdays incident

Whats the next move for passengers on that train?

http://www.u.tv/News/Trouble-flares-...e-eb091bf4d146

55 passengers

RTE quoted 110 on board

If luggage was stolen/damaged a passenger should apply in writing to Translink or Irish Rail under the CIV rules providing evidence that they were onboard and a statement of the loss incurred

http://www.otif.org/pdf_external/e/RU-CIV-1999-e.PDF

The only exclusion I can find in the rules applies to nuclear incidents