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KSW 04-04-2009 20:07

19.23 Gorey to Dublin
 
Why is this service been cancelled every week. I will be visiting Gorey on Tuesday & I see that the 19.23 service is cancelled again No notice on the IE website.??

Thomas Ralph 07-04-2009 14:02

I believe it is because of overnight route works between Greystones and Arklow. The train is sent down to Rosslare and overnights there, instead of overnighting in Connolly, running empty to Arklow at 04something, and running a service from Arklow to Rosslare at 05something, which service has also been cancelled for some time.

ThomasJ 20-04-2009 09:55

There seems to be a few too many overnight works on the DART line? any reason for this? or is the overnight DART works just an excuse?

KSW 20-04-2009 10:01

http://irishrail.ie/news_centre/news...ew&news_id=480

This has been going on for the best part of 3weeks I think. Last week I traveled on the 20.05 which was meant to be a train but then a bus transfer didnt get to Dublin until 11.05pm from 8.30 that evening.

Traveling by bus to Gorey until I see new trains and the new timetable... lest that way I can leave Gorey late with the improved bus service.

KSW 24-04-2009 21:20

http://irishrail.ie/news_centre/news...ew&news_id=480

Just get the 18.50 Gorey/Dublin service ex 17.40 Rosslare least this service isn't canceled.

KSW 03-05-2009 16:26

Tuesday to Thursday
 
http://irishrail.ie/news_centre/news...ew&news_id=480

19.23 Gorey/Dublin is canceled again this week and the 20.05 Enniscorthy/Dublin is a bus transfer to Bray and DART to Connolly AGAIN.

KSW 06-05-2009 13:36

12/05/2009 to 14/05/2009
 
Again the 19.23 Gorey to Dublin is canceled and the 20.05 Enniscorthy is a transfer by bus to Bray & DART to Dublin.

What exactly are IE doing to Connolly/Bray overnight works?

I need to know at this stage........

KSW 02-07-2009 14:37

Glad to see both 19.23 & 20.05 Services are back to normal.

Last nights 19.23 service left Gorey @19.35 due to technical faults which were, Closing of doors without the 3 beep sounds, Lights go off, Toilet sound says for privacy lock doors, Inside interior door did not work Open/Close, Onboard display half the writing working (i.e) Connolly Station -> Conno

If this persists it will look bad for the new trains on the Gorey line.

wobbles 09-07-2009 20:21

Service was 2800 class this evening.

A regular thing I have noticed on the 22K is the internal doors always seem to be broken. The heating/Air-con system seems to be failing regularly.

The services seem to be substituted regularly by 29000 and now the 2800 seem to be replacing them.

KSW 09-07-2009 21:37

Its bad enough that the 2800 class are on 9/10 Rosslare/Gorey services you think Irish Rail would make sure to have one service a day to Gorey to be the new 22k trains.

The issue about the infernal doors not working believe me its going to be a problem.

sublimity 09-07-2009 23:16

They came to an agreement and decided to throw the worst possible 22k on the rosslare line. thats what i think

KSW 10-07-2009 00:00

Wobbles, I think you should start a thread on the 06.00 Gorey/Connolly, I noticed you mentioned this on another thread. See how many faults can go wrong with this particular service and the ex 16.40 Dublin/Gorey, This is after all a new train.

wobbles 10-07-2009 16:13

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Originally Posted by sublimity (Post 46969)
They came to an agreement and decided to throw the worst possible 22k on the rosslare line. thats what i think

I dont agree. If it was the same train I would say yes but I have noted problems on several 22K. These 22K also operate to Sligo and there are problems on that route too. I think there was a big failure on that route earlier in the week.

wobbles 10-07-2009 16:19

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Originally Posted by KSW (Post 46970)
Wobbles, I think you should start a thread on the 06.00 Gorey/Connolly, I noticed you mentioned this on another thread. See how many faults can go wrong with this particular service and the ex 16.40 Dublin/Gorey, This is after all a new train.

This morning the 0600 departed Gorey at 0614. I counted 3 internal doors broken. The train had no heating and was very cold. The Auto PA was not working. I was hoping the 28 class would be on the 0600 train they are a better train than the 22.

ThomasJ 10-07-2009 16:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by wobbles (Post 46989)
This morning the 0600 departed Gorey at 0614. I counted 3 internal doors broken. The train had no heating and was very cold. The Auto PA was not working. I was hoping the 28 class would be on the 0600 train they are a better train than the 22.

To be honest my opinion based on travelling on these 22ks a couple of time is nothing major. Your journey does not make much difference but one thing that does irritate me is not enough leg room!

They (the 22ks) should not be used on any commuter services that would have people standing. The train is not built for it.

I hope the ones being built for commuter services will take this into account!

KSW 12-07-2009 11:49

To be honest its the train drivers who make the journey in the way of turning on the onboard PA, Making sure the infernal passage way doors are working, Toilets are clean they are after all in control of driving the train. They dont just drive the train they also should be in charge of litter after each journey like it says in the passenger charter..

Its the train drivers that make the journey more of an experience.

wobbles 14-07-2009 20:00

The 0600 Gorey-Connolly 13/7/09 delayed 10 min at Blackrock. Not sure of the problem but the driver was looking under each coach on the train. Also 3 internal doors and 1 toilet out of order

KSW 14-07-2009 20:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by wobbles (Post 47075)
The 0600 Gorey-Connolly 13/7/09 delayed 10 min at Blackrock. Not sure of the problem but the driver was looking under each coach on the train. Also 3 internal doors and 1 toilet out of order

3 Internal doors, Thats crazy. If a passenger gets on say the middle coach of the 22k train and one of the toilets is not working and if the infernal door does not work to the other door then the passenger would have to get off at the next station and use it if they really need to. CRAZY for a new train.

wobbles 14-07-2009 20:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by KSW (Post 47076)
3 Internal doors, Thats crazy. If a passenger gets on say the middle coach of the 22k train and one of the toilets is not working and if the infernal door does not work to the other door then the passenger would have to get off at the next station and use it if they really need to. CRAZY for a new train.

No KSW they were all in the open position. The 22K are a joke for a new train. I hope IE get them sorted before the go to Rosslare but I doubt it.

KSW 14-07-2009 20:13

Just to say I boarded the 19.23 ex Gorey at Greystones last night and everything was working . Including the PA which said this is the 07.40 from Rosslare europort to dublin connolly Think IE are giving us hints :D:D

wobbles 14-07-2009 20:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by KSW (Post 47078)
Just to say I boarded the 19.23 ex Gorey at Greystones last night and everything was working . Including the PA which said this is the 07.40 from Rosslare europort to dublin connolly Think IE are giving us hints :D:D

As a matter of interest what 22 was it? I am trying to keep track of the ones giving problems.

KSW 15-07-2009 09:11

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Originally Posted by wobbles (Post 47079)
As a matter of interest what 22 was it? I am trying to keep track of the ones giving problems.

22009 :)

ThomasJ 15-07-2009 09:12

Just to show these 22k trains aren't perfect
http://www.sligoweekender.ie/news/st...jojau&cat=news

Quote:

Mayor’s concern over train safety
By Sharon Conway

THE Mayor of Sligo has voiced his concerns over the safety of the single line on the Sligo-Dublin train route.

Jim McGarry’s daughter and niece were among passengers left stranded following a mechanical fault on the 1pm service last Wednesday.


Speaking to the Sligo Weekender, Mayor McGarry said he would be writing to the MD of Iarnrod Eireann as he has a series of questions, relating to passenger safety, that need to be answered.


“The train was only 15 minutes into the journey when it broke down. How come passengers had to wait for three full hours on the train between Collooney and Ballymote? Why were they kept on the train for so long? Why weren’t buses sent out to them? My daughter and niece were going on their holidays and they missed their flight because of the long delay. Another passenger was extremely agitated and felt claustrophobic. There was no apology and no explanation. If the train went on fire while it was stopped last Wednesday, what was the position of the passengers? Passengers had no idea when they would be getting off the train. Serious questions need to be answered.”


The affected train had to be pushed back by another train to Ballymote station.



ACustomer 15-07-2009 10:33

Who said the 22ks were perfect?

The mayor of Sligo is worried about safety. What a muppet! Inconvenience yes, but safety? It was probably because of safety concerns that the delay was so long.

God save us from grandstanding local politicians.

PLUMB LOCO 15-07-2009 22:15

The Sligo Lord Mayor may have a valid point about safety, I would prefer to take my chance in one of the MkII type carriages with slam doors not electronically controlled - carriages not full of electrical gear and underfloor motors etc, etc...

Anyway a three hour delay is completely unacceptable - how many of these passengers will never take the train again and how many others will they recount their tales of woe to? Barry Kenny spin your way out of this one. :mad:

PS Also with older stock it was possible to open windows for air, not like the hermetically sealed sardine cans (MkIVs, 22000s etc).

dowlingm 16-07-2009 02:50

The "Mayor" of Sligo should have taken the Mk3s that his colleagues thought weren't good enough for the Sligo line then :)

Colm Moore 16-07-2009 08:50

In fairness, loco hauled sets break down more. Now sure about fires. Brake fires seem more common on DMUs :)

KSW 16-07-2009 21:17

Just to say that the 29000 class operated tonights 19.23 from Gorey....

KSW 10-08-2009 23:57

Tonights Gorey Dublin 19.23 service was cancelled as with the 20.27 to Dublin. I was told that they were doing the overhead lines again. Arrived into Dublins tara Street at 23.05.

Their is no notice on the IE site or RUI maybe i just cant see it.

Mark Gleeson 11-08-2009 09:48

No notice but ongoing

Quote:

Runs on Monday to Thursday from 10 August until 13 August.
Might as well try to claim the refund on an hours delay

Mark Gleeson 11-08-2009 14:07

Irish Rail admit the changes, again late

Quote:

Overhead Line Maintenance Work - Connolly/Rosslare Alterations - Up to mid September 2009 by Corporate Communications

To facilitate overhead Line Maintenance Work between Connolly and Bray the following alterations to the Connolly/Rosslare route will apply each week up to mid September 2009:

Please note a 20-25 minute delay may occur.

Mondays

19.23 Gorey to Connolly service is cancelled

20.05 Enniscorthy to Connolly service is substituted by buses.

Tuesdays to Thursdays

05.44 Arklow to Rosslare Europort service is substituted by buses.

19.23 Gorey to Connolly service is cancelled.

20.05 Enniscorthy to Connolly service is substituted by buses.

Fridays

05.44 Arklow to Rosslare Europort service is substituted by buses.

Iarnrod Eireann apologises for any inconvenience this essential work may cause.

finnyus 11-08-2009 15:48

Is there actually Overhead Line Maintenance Work going on? or just a lack of drivers?

Mark Gleeson 11-08-2009 15:56

There is work, can confirm

Believe they where between Seapoint and Blackrock last night, kept me awake


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