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Mark 28-04-2008 14:15

Have they entered service on the Waterford line yet or is that still September starting date?

Mark Gleeson 28-04-2008 14:16

Not physically authorised to even travel the line yet

17:35 to Carlow is meant to be a 3 car 22k once the depot in Portlaoise is fully go

Oisin88 29-04-2008 21:40

Have they started getting lazy with the destination displays on the 22Ks out of Heuston? Spotted one leaving at 18:10 today with no destination and might have seen one yesterday as well....

RadarControl 30-04-2008 07:36

The 6:30 out of Portlaoise is a 2x3 car set. Also not sure but it looked like the 6:30 from Carlow was a 2200 set. Only saw it as it came into Heuston this morning.

Edward Ryan 30-04-2008 09:11

Passing Heuston earlier saw a 22K that seemed to be operating a Kildare commuter service.

Ed

Laois Commuter 30-04-2008 11:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadarControl (Post 32871)
The 6:30 out of Portlaoise is a 2x3 car set. Also not sure but it looked like the 6:30 from Carlow was a 2200 set. Only saw it as it came into Heuston this morning.

Carlow arrived 20 late - old orange train - behind the Limerick.

LC

netlordr23 11-09-2008 18:08

Any update on when the new trains will be running?

Mark Gleeson 11-09-2008 18:35

The 6:30 Carlow Dublin service, the 17:35 & 20.05 Dublin Carlow. However the 20:05 may not be

The 9:30 to Waterford and 13:05 return services are the new trains as well.

netlordr23 22-12-2008 17:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson (Post 36429)
The 6:30 Carlow Dublin service, the 17:35 & 20.05 Dublin Carlow. However the 20:05 may not be

The 9:30 to Waterford and 13:05 return services are the new trains as well.

Is the 15:05 service to Waterford still operated with the old train?

Mark Gleeson 22-12-2008 18:03

The 11:20 and 15:05 are still Mk3 operated services but won't be beyond the first few weeks of January.

There are 5 more 6 car sets to enter service, Galway line needs 1, Waterford 2, Tralee 1. The 5th frees up two 3 cars and gets all Mallow Tralee services converted

plant43 22-12-2008 18:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by netlordr23 (Post 39985)
Is the 15:05 service to Waterford still operated with the old train?

I was on this train a few weeks back and it was still a Mark III.

The 1735 to Carlow is a six car (2x3) set.

netlordr23 23-12-2008 10:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson (Post 39986)
The 11:20 and 15:05 are still Mk3 operated services but won't be beyond the first few weeks of January.

There are 5 more 6 car sets to enter service, Galway line needs 1, Waterford 2, Tralee 1. The 5th frees up two 3 cars and gets all Mallow Tralee services converted



Quote:

Originally Posted by plant43 (Post 39989)
I was on this train a few weeks back and it was still a Mark III.

The 1735 to Carlow is a six car (2x3) set.


Great, thx.
I will be travelling on the 10th jan, so I guess MK3 will still be on the 1505. What about the 16:25? I've been trying to get on the new train for some time now, :) haven't had any luck until now.

Kilkea 19-02-2009 13:47

Any idea if all the 22ks for the Waterford line are now in service, or are there more due to come on? The 18.25 service out of Heuston in particular is still the old train, and also the 07.35 out of Plunkett.

Mark Gleeson 19-02-2009 14:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kilkea (Post 41962)
Any idea if all the 22ks for the Waterford line are now in service, or are there more due to come on? The 18.25 service out of Heuston in particular is still the old train, and also the 07.35 out of Plunkett.

There are only 3 Mk3 links left, Galway, Waterford and Ballina/Westport on the weekends.

There are another 39 ICR's to enter service

sublimity 19-02-2009 14:19

Could some of the remaining Mk3s be moved to the Limerick - Waterford/Rosslare line? I heard not all the Mk3s are for sale.

Thomas Ralph 19-02-2009 16:27

They'd go down through the Cahir viaduct I'd wager.

Mark Gleeson 19-02-2009 16:33

As far as I know no buyers for the Mk3s

sublimity 19-02-2009 18:32

They should keep them, or most of them anyway

dowlingm 20-02-2009 00:03

How about sell the DDs and replace them with Mk3s :D

Thomas Ralph 20-02-2009 10:47

Nothing wrong with the DDs (other than putting locos on fire)

dowlingm 21-02-2009 03:17

Isn't that partly to do with IE/NIR running fewer, longer sets than originally planned for, with consequent demand on the HEP?

Mark Gleeson 21-02-2009 10:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by dowlingm (Post 42016)
Isn't that partly to do with IE/NIR running fewer, longer sets than originally planned for, with consequent demand on the HEP?

Guys if we want to get in to the technical issues, http://www.railusers.ie/forum/showthread.php?t=6870

netlordr23 26-04-2009 15:47

Mk3's still running the route?

Colm Moore 26-04-2009 17:01

Yes, a limited number of Galway and Waterford services are still done by Mark 3 sets.

sublimity 26-04-2009 18:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by netlordr23 (Post 44624)
Mk3's still running the route?

Why is there a problem with that? Mk3's are decent carriages and are not that old. All they need is a small refurbishment in inchicore. IE are idiots, blaming the current climate for the removal of all loco hauled trains (Mk3s)
I was in correspondence with Mr Fearn recently and thats what he said.

Kilkea 27-04-2009 13:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by sublimity (Post 44628)
Why is there a problem with that? Mk3's are decent carriages and are not that old. All they need is a small refurbishment in inchicore. IE are idiots, blaming the current climate for the removal of all loco hauled trains (Mk3s)
I was in correspondence with Mr Fearn recently and thats what he said.

I get the Waterford 18.25 service daily which is a Mk3. It is filthy dirty and the PA system seems to be barely working. Various carriages shudder violently on certain parts of the line and create a deafening noise.
I am praying for it to be replaced with a 22k but not sure when/if this is going to happen.

sublimity 27-04-2009 14:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kilkea (Post 44664)
It is filthy dirty and the PA system seems to be barely working. .

I'd wager that IE are deliberately failing to maintain the Mk3s because they believe they don't have a future.
To put it another way, they are trying to turn the public against the Mk3s by doing this.

sean 28-04-2009 14:39

Quite possible - I think they did the same thing with the Mk2ds before the introduction of those wonderful "Intercity" 29,000s :mad: on the Sligo line in 2006.

Kilkea's problems sound like the Mk3s are in crap condition for the want of proper maintenance.

Thomas Ralph 28-04-2009 15:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by sean (Post 44715)
Kilkea's problems sound like the Mk3s are in crap condition for the want of proper maintenance.

It'll be a crying shame if those carriages are let go; they have decades left in them.

Mark Gleeson 28-04-2009 15:21

48 are being refurbished and kept

I don't see the attachment to the Mk3, yes a good piece of engineering but its a 40 year old design. The heating and AC was always a serious weakness

sublimity 29-04-2009 11:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson (Post 44722)
48 are being refurbished and kept

And they're all going to be used on the Belfast line?

Kilkea 15-05-2009 08:52

anyone have word on when this additonal 22k will come into service for the Waterford line? I assume that it will cover the 18.25 out of Heuston?

sublimity 16-05-2009 09:10

You should be thankful that all your trains to Waterford are InterCity stock. Spare a thought for the Rosslare customers who haven't seen an InterCity service since July 2004.

Mark Gleeson 16-05-2009 09:35

Deliveries are still on going

Still two more 3 car sets and 5 6 car sets to enter service

Cork is top of the list for a 3 car set

Kilkea 25-05-2009 12:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kilkea (Post 45216)
anyone have word on when this additonal 22k will come into service for the Waterford line? I assume that it will cover the 18.25 out of Heuston?

22k came into service on the 18.25 from Heuston last week, the ticket guy told me that that was the end of the MK3 on the line but not sure if they are still running them during the day off peak.

sean 25-05-2009 15:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson (Post 45262)
Cork is top of the list for a 3 car set

What use would Cork have for a 3 car IC set? My understanding is that everything South of Mallow is either short-haul trains or CAF Intercity sets.

Thomas Ralph 25-05-2009 15:40

Cork-Tralee

Mark Gleeson 25-05-2009 15:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by sean (Post 45490)
What use would Cork have for a 3 car IC set? My understanding is that everything South of Mallow is either short-haul trains or CAF Intercity sets.

The Cork based Mk3 set kept spare to cover for Mk4 failures is as a matter of routine drafted in to cover Mallow Tralee due to the the lack of railcars

On paper a single 3 car ICR will release 4 2700 coaches which fills the Midelton void


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