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Mark Gleeson 02-08-2007 07:10
[article]Reckless' teenage dare condemned by Irish Rail
 
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Originally Posted by irish Times
'Reckless' teenage dare condemned by Irish Rail
Steven Carroll

Irish Rail has condemned a teenage dare which involved a boy lying beneath a section of railway track while a train travelled over it at 90mph.

A video, which was uploaded to the Bebo website, showed the young man crawling underneath a railway sleeper and waiting for the train to pass while being filmed.

The video is believed to have been made near Monasterevin, Co Kildare, but Irish Rail could not confirm the exact location.

Barry Kenny of Irish Rail described the incident as "reckless behaviour". He said it was "miraculous" that the young man had not been killed.

Irish Rail said it was very relieved he had not been injured during the incident.

"The young man clearly didn't understand that when a train travels over track it causes it to move and he could easily have been killed, crushed or badly injured," Mr Kenny said.

This is the first instance of such behaviour that has been brought to the attention Irish Rail and Mr Kenny said he hoped it would be the last incident of its kind.

The video was uploaded to Bebo.com, an online social networking community where people chat, share videos and photographs and make new friends. The service is very popular among students and young people. Irish Rail was made aware of the video by a journalist and immediately contacted Bebo to have it removed. The video is no longer available for viewing on the website.

A profile of the teenager who published the video accompanied it on the webpage and Irish Rail confirmed it has made contact with the Garda about investigating the incident.

Mr Kenny said the identity of those in the video is very clear and he believes the people involved are 15-18 years of age.

This is not the first controversial item to have been published on a social networking website. "Happy slapping", a game where people attack others at random, made the headlines last year following the publication of videos in similar circumstances.

"I've seen pages where groups of hooligans arrange fights and others where people publish videos of self abuse," Robert Billington, a Bebo user said. "The content people upload to these websites is largely unrestricted and will remain in place until someone complains about it," he said.
© 2007 The Irish Times

We have seen it and it is Monestervein, its a Cork bound train. Rather worrying IE can't confirm the location

Good news is the max penalty is

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on conviction on indictment, to a fine not exceeding 100,000 eur or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 3 years or to both,
And the gardai dont need a warrant to arrest the person

Thomas J Stamp 02-08-2007 09:27
Not exactly on topic but what I love about the likes of The Irish Times is their strange reaction to something that nearly everyone knows about but they sorta don't.

Like this:

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Bebo.com, an online social networking community where people chat, share videos and photographs and make new friends. The service is very popular among students and young people.
Perhaps Madam will tell us what a DVD player is next, or perhaps one of those new fangled ipods.

As for Barry............

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Irish Rail was made aware of the video by a journalist and immediately contacted Bebo to have it removed.
It was there till around 4pm. Well, that's immediate in terms of IE anyway.

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"I've seen pages where groups of hooligans arrange fights and others where people publish videos of self abuse," Robert Billington, a Bebo user said. "The content people upload to these websites is largely unrestricted and will remain in place until someone complains about it," he said.
I always love the way they find "Bebo user's" and the like. Presumably he either works at the next desk to the writer or is a mate of his. What it does do is reinforce for the gentle readers of the Times a view of something that really should be done about this Bebo thing.

Oh, and a last bit of spin from Barry:

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This is the first instance of such behaviour that has been brought to the attention Irish Rail
Technically correct. However, it is not the first time things like this have happened and those happenings were witnessed by IE staff and therefore not "brought to the attention of Irish Rail"

It's the little things that count.

As for Pikey Mikey his day in Court awaits. As far as I remember Monasterevin is within Judge Connellan's bailiwick and I foresee dark days ahead for Pikey..........

2Funki4Wheelz 02-08-2007 09:42
'Robert Billington' really doesn't sound like a Bebo user.

Are they not all like Chanelle1985 and Britney_fan? :D

Mark Gleeson 02-08-2007 09:47
Its not the first incident of someone doing something really really stupid for kicks

There has been an ongoing problem for years where teenagers would stand on the red buffer beam between a set of DART coaches while it was moving, thats the only reason the refurbished DART have the strange new headlight pods, its called an 'anti surfing device'

I've witnessed it and I know several others have as well

comcor 02-08-2007 10:59
The video is still up on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_X-02FiLUI

Why is there so much ballast missing from the track that it's possible to get under it?

Mark Gleeson 02-08-2007 11:09
A. The wasters removed it, it doesn't look like a track defect

B. Minor subsidence

Track looks fairly stable as the train goes through

Rashers 02-08-2007 22:14
Still up there on Youtube. Feedback rolling in every few minutes, so it must be getting linked via some other sites.
What is the local media reaction like about it?
Bored youth, or idiots...

Colm Donoghue 02-08-2007 22:37
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Originally Posted by Thomas J Stamp (Post 23932)
Not exactly on topic but what I love about the likes of The Irish Times is their strange reaction to something that nearly everyone knows about but they sorta don't.

...

Perhaps Madam will tell us what a DVD player is next, or perhaps one of those new fangled ipods.
This is the same person who let it be explained that the picture of the eejit in the celtic jersey protesting about foreign games was a supporter of Glasgow Celtic football club, a scottish soccer team....

Derek Wheeler 02-08-2007 22:58
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Originally Posted by Rashers (Post 23963)
Still up there on Youtube. Feedback rolling in every few minutes, so it must be getting linked via some other sites.
What is the local media reaction like about it?
Bored youth, or idiots...
Its linked all over the place. The original file has been downloaded. Stuff like this can't be stopped on the net. Just look at some of the comments coming in. Its a wasters paradise. Best solution now, is for the tossers involved to get prosecuted and for IE to wake up and run a gruesome TV campaign about this kind of thing. Furthermore, it would serve them well to launch a campaign on the net via Bebo, youtube etc. There are kids out there who still think this **** is cool.

The issue of the dugout under the tracks has yet to be clarified. Did the tossers dig it out or was it left like that by IE????

James Shields 02-08-2007 23:22
What a stupid thing to do. It's almost a pity that he didn't do the human gene pool a favour by removing himself from it.

I hope he enjoys his fifteen minutes of fame - he should have plenty of time to reflect on it over the next year or two.

MrX 03-08-2007 00:50
Perhaps next time it'll be a MK3
 
It's a pity it wasn't a MK3, with non-retention toilets i.e. flushing directly onto the line.

Also, is it not highly dangerous to remove that much ballast under a track?

He was potentially endangering everyone on the train.

shweeney 03-08-2007 07:47
there was some debate about this on Boards. How could they remove so much ballast, in the middle of a station without somebody noticing?

Is it possible that IE dug the hole for some form of maintenance?

shweeney 03-08-2007 07:49
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Originally Posted by MrX (Post 23972)
It's a pity it wasn't a MK3, with non-retention toilets i.e. flushing directly onto the line.
going OT but I notice that one of the evening Sligo services is now being run by a Mk 2 set with the consequence that the track at platform 4 in Connolly is (inevitably) covered in ****. Delightful.

PaulM 03-08-2007 11:31
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Originally Posted by shweeney (Post 23976)
going OT but I notice that one of the evening Sligo services is now being run by a Mk 2 set with the consequence that the track at platform 4 in Connolly is (inevitably) covered in ****. Delightful.
This has always been pretty common in Connolly, it may have improved recently but I used to see it nearly every day. IE are great. :rolleyes:

2Funki4Wheelz 03-08-2007 11:48
Well the signs do say not to use the toilets when at a station - I think the message would be more effective if they said why.

portarlington_user 03-08-2007 14:01
It's on Sky News website as well

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...278339,00.html

ThomasJ 03-08-2007 14:16
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Originally Posted by portarlington_user (Post 23992)
associated with a picture of a virgin railcar (or is it?)

portarlington_user 03-08-2007 15:09
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Originally Posted by ThomasJ (Post 23993)
associated with a picture of a virgin railcar (or is it?)
ha ha yeah I noticed that as well!

Colm Moore 04-08-2007 14:32
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Originally Posted by shweeney (Post 23976)
going OT but I notice that one of the evening Sligo services is now being run by a Mk 2 set with the consequence that the track at platform 4 in Connolly is (inevitably) covered in ****. Delightful.
Thats what fire hoses are for. :rolleyes:

a_slight_hitch 04-08-2007 18:29
The article featured a portrait of his stupid face looking all smug and gob****ey.

You've got to question the intelligence of someone who essentially confesses to the media before the cops have even spoken to him.

Stupid people should be killed until they die from it.

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Gardai to interview man over bizarre rail prank

By Jason O'Brien
Saturday August 04 2007


GARDAI will tomorrow meet the man behind a controversial YouTube video who was filmed lying between railway tracks as an express train hurtled over him.

Rail bosses insist they will push for a prosecution over the incident in which the man was lying in a hole under the track and the train passed overjust inches from hisface.

Michael O'Connor (21), from Portarlington, Co Laois, stuck his head out from the railway sleepers at Monasterevin station in Kildare just moments before the Cork-Dublin express train passed over him.

"It was moronic beyond words," Iarnrod Eireann spokesman Barry Kenny said. "He could have been very easily crushed by the pressure alone, he could have been decapitated.

The stunt was captured on a mobile phone camera and has since made the news in Britain and the US.

Speaking to the Irish Independent last night, Mr O'Connor admitted that he could have died during the prank.

Stones

"When the train came - you know the way them stones were unearthed? - well, the weight of the train brought down concrete pillars on my chest so I'd say if the train had to stop in the train station it would have killed me," he said. "It took away my breath for a couple of minutes, but I wouldn't say I was scared, no."

The dramatic video footage - complete with expletive-ridden commentary - was posted to a social networking site and became an internet hit but it has since been removed.

Gardai said they identified three individuals they plan to interview this weekend.

- Jason O'Brien

dermo88 05-08-2007 12:29
What a prize capital muppet. Was he dropped on his head as a baby.

His bebo page is a work of art, its a pure thoroughbred 100% skanger. They should run him at the Curragh.

http://bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=4191786189

Anyway, any bets on what he'll get when he is sentenced.

2Funki4Wheelz 07-08-2007 08:43
Well he was in the Sunday World (I think) giving the two fingers in a big photo with little photos repreduced off bebo and him describing the train experience. Shame on any paper interviewing him.

dermo88 07-08-2007 09:37
The skangers world you mean......the paper bought by skangers, supporting skangers.

Pity the parents. I'd be ashamed to pull a stunt like that. If only he'd selected a section of jointed track for his stunt, we all know where he'd be now.

Mark Gleeson 07-08-2007 12:54
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Originally Posted by dermo88 (Post 24043)
The skangers world you mean......the paper bought by skangers, supporting skangers.

Pity the parents. I'd be ashamed to pull a stunt like that. If only he'd selected a section of jointed track for his stunt, we all know where he'd be now.
Yes we do the parents would be all over the media seeking the hanging of a list of IE managers for there negligence in failing to prevent their little angel from doing something like this

This guy is going to do time for this, heaps of evidence to prove the case. IE if they are anyway smart will also seek a order that he never sets foot on IE property for the rest of his life

Better still the judge could order this headcase to do some community service by cleaning up the aftermath of a person vs train incident

2Funki4Wheelz 07-08-2007 13:17
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Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson (Post 24047)
Better still the judge could order this headcase to do some community service by cleaning up the aftermath of a person vs train incident
Which he would most likely video and post up on bebo/myspace/youtube.

MOH 07-08-2007 14:29
You've got to love the Sky article

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But Iarnrod Eireann fear there could be copycat incidents, and have warned that next time a prankster could be killed.
... and so here we include the video so you can copycat it yourself.


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