Hope you enjoyed your 40 minutes in Cork :eek:
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21 Feb 2007. 05.20 Galway > Heuston.
No catering car. No trolley service. Not a single announcement anywhere along the journey until pulling into Heuston. |
14:15/14:25 service Ballina/Westport - Dublin no catering for the past 2-3 weeks.
How about this: Scrap trolley service when the cafe/bar is open, you save on a staff member and put them on a train that has neither a trolley or a cafe/bar instead! |
It has been mentioned to me by a regular long distance passenger that "proper" food is not being served after 9/10 am on services with restaurant cars. Can anyone confirm this?
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Only trains with full catering are
7:00, 8:00 Dublin Cork 6:30, 7:30 Cork Dublin 7:35 Limerick Dublin 7:00 Tralee Dublin 7:10 Dublin Galway 7:35 Waterford Dublin 7:15 Galway Dublin All Dublin Belfast except the 20:10 Belfast Dublin All others are limited to catering trolley/shop |
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14:25 ex Westport - Dublin Heuston, Mk.2 Dining car, closed as usual. Nice to see we are half way back to getting some sort of catering service on the 14:25!
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Intersting Thread!!!!!!
Listen its been 4years since the Rosslare so called InterCity route had an InterCity train. Its now Oct'07 and with the 14sets of new 22000 railcars in Ireland why dont Iarnrod Eireann make it up to Rosslare and Sligo users by this Christmas. Maybe if Rosslare and Sligo services ended in Hueston then just maybe it would make these lines but thats never going to happen so there's no point talking about this. Why Iarnrod Eireann dont treat the Sligo and Rosslare lines like InterCity route's is just crazy I mean why?.. I think seeing as there is only 2intercity services that operate in the republic from Connolly, there should be more on these services at connolly station and not just for Enterprise as anyone can see entering connolly. Belfast has its own departure gate. The Gorey commuter services has i'm going to say literally thousands of free minutes added onto it, Espically the 17:25 ex Connolly. How many users live in Gorey and the entire line and are on this site. Even if you have travelled on this route tell us your experince. In regards to the new 22000 stock, Why introduce the trains in April what is the hold up. I have read that the signalling is the main factor but the signalling isnt causing the delay of 4months in 2008 lets be honest. When can we see the signalling working. The Rosslare Gorey services are in need of help as in the Sligo Longford services what if there was a direct service from Sligo to Wexford and Wexford to Sligo. Calling at starting from Wexford-Ennoscorthy-Gorey-Arklow-Rathdrum-Wicklow-Greystones-Bray-Connolly-Maynooth-Mullingar-Edgeworthstown-Longford-Dromod-Carrick on Shannon-Boyle-Ballymote-Collooney and Sligo. No stopping at DART,COMMUTER stations along the way just InterCity. THANKS ALL
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I like the Rosslare line its just a pitty that there is no Intercity train to run this Route. Sorry but on the timetable doesnt it say Intercity and not Commuter its false advisement.
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I think you'll find it says Railcar.
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Sorry Tralph but it only says Railcar on the IE website nothing on the timetable booklet itself only InterCity on the bottom left of the page. I agree with Dublin/Rosslare on this one.
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*When I say improve, it should be taken in the IÉ sense of improving for a couple of weeks/months before sliding back to its old standard. |
Well they have pulled the trolley service off the 21:00 to Cork
Problem really is the price of the food on offer and as we all well know the weird opening hours will apply Bear in mind most of the trains which now have the restaurant symbol on them lost them last year so its really just restoring things to the way things where. Everyone on the 17:05 to Limerick/Ennis will be happy we get food again |
They've pulled the trolley service off of just about every train going. The only trolley I've seen in operation in the last three months was on a mid-afternoon Rosslare-Dublin.
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Trolley both ways on Sligo train weekend before last. Mind you, it seemed to spend most of the trip in the carriage I was in - every time I looked up it had moved another 6 inches.
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And of course if the route is being run by 29000s then the trolley is stuck within the four-car set where it started.
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It's a small point but illustrative of poor attention to customer servive: in the last few weeks on both the Enterprise and the Dublin-Cork service there has been no ice in the restaurant cars for drinks etc. It is a minor miracle that the Enterprise manages gin, tonic and ice!! Invariably one component is missing.
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big luggage
HI
I will be travelling from Dublin to Waterford with a quite large samsonite suitcase, and I just wanted to know if there is a baggage stowing zone in each car, because I don't want to be going down the aisle with a large bag... thx |
There is a luggage rack at the end of each coach, its generous in size
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Ok, thanks. One can sit wherever one wants in standard class, right? Even if the ticket is numbered. |
If you have a reservation you should sit in the seat and coach as indicated
Reservations are in coaches A and C |
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Seat 1 in coach A
Its highly unlikely the seat will be marked reserved so you can move to another if you wish, of course not knowing if its been reserved by someone else The online booking system gives a graphic of the train allowing manual selection of the coach and of your seat on board, telesales seem to randomly allocate your seat |
I'd just like to say that I had a very nice journey on the 9am Sligo - Connolly. Got on at Collooney, one of the new 6-car trains. I worked on my laptop and charged my mobile on the way. Love being able to do that! :) Only noticable delay was at Mullingar, but it was only 5 minutes. I think it was a wheelchair user getting on. Still pulled in to Maynooth (my stop) on time.
Ticket inspector was one of the guys from Sligo, nice guy, been on the train for 5 years or so, never had a problem with him or seen him having a problem with anyone. Trolley was in the back section of the train for the first part of the trip (I was in the first carriage), and was very slow in working its way up to the front. I believe it switches to the front section after Longford, but a LOT of people got on after Longford, most likely due to the 10e return offer for July. This was probably why it was so slow. I didn't want to get anything anyway, so I didn't mind. The moral of the story is, it's a helluva lot better getting the Sligo - Dublin train now than it was when I was colleging it up in Maynooth from '01 to '05. (still remember being told to "pile on there, lads!" getting the Friday evening train back, when there was NO room to do so!) It is possible to have a nice journey with Iarnród Eireann. |
another twist in the seat reservations tale
went to athenry and back last weekend new train on the way down - seats not marked - ahh well. i was there early so sat in them - grand on the way back up, cu na mara type train (18:28 from athenry to heuston) the A carriage was at the front of the train - hopped in - seats not marked - ahh well, sat near enough it would normally end there but i was thirsty so i went to the dining car which was the next one down. shop was closed. saw someone with coffee and asked them where they got it - they pointed down the back of the train. i walked all the way down and sure enough there was a second dining car. i had to walk to the end to queue and i saw that there was another carriage beyond it - sure enough that was also marked A and when i went in there were my seats marked with my name and everything! needless to say there was people sitting in them regardless! - i didn't bother moving so the moral is that if your seats aren't marked in the first A carriage, check the other one!! |
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Reading this thread I decided to post my InterCity(Commuter) experience on the Dublin/Rosslare route as far as Gorey.
I took the 11:35 service to Gorey it was the usual 2800 commuter set. We departed Connolly station at 11:35. The train went the right speed limit right through to Grand Canal Dock, I thought after the inner city speed limits the train would have reached a higher speed to Dun Laoghaire. The train stood just after Sydney Parade for about 5mins. I noticed a DART train had left Connolly at 11:09 the next service was the 11:35 to Gorey followed by a 11:39 DART service. I would have thought that the 11:35 service would travel at a faster pace to DunLaoghaire/Bray. This service is I believe always like this it crawls to Bray. We arrived in Bray at 12:11 waited 5mins then departed again. We arrived in Greystones at 12:26 followed by Kilcoole 12:32 then Wicklow 12:42. We arrived in Rathdrum 12:59(17mins) But after Rathdrum it took just 15mins to Arklow 13:14 just one minute late. From Arklow to Gorey the signal was green and the train departed, Arrived in Gorey at 13:25( 2minutes early arrival and 10mins journey time ) The question I want to ask is way do all Gorey/Rosslare trains have so much padding on the timetable affecting journey times. We could have arrived into Gorey at 13:15 even 13:10. I think Irish Rail are going to seriously feduce the amount of padding on all its South-Eastern services. Dublin Connolly Bray 06/12 11:09 11:52 0 DART Dublin Connolly Bray 06/12 11:35 12:16 0 Railcar |
Remember that it's single-tracked; the trains have to be synchronized in order to pass each other.
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I have to agree with KSW. 15 to 20 min could easily be knocked off the times of Rosslare services. The 11.35 always seems to be waiting around stations ahead of time. The 0600 train from Gorey is another one for waiting around. I have been on this service when it was almost 20min late and still got to Tara St on time. Slightly off topic but do staff get training on how to use the PA? Today it was more like grunt than an announcment.:mad: |
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It can be done, but why only a very few drivers? Welcome to the forum by the way. |
Thank you Mark.
There seems to be no standards when it comes to the PA. Im sure it would not take long to train the drivers how to use it correctly. |
I have to say I am cleary a fan of the new 22k trains. Yesterday at Heuston Station I seen these new 22k trains at every platfrom the mk III sets from what I seen yesterday are cleary gone. Travelling from Dublin to Galway on these new trains I have to say I am very happy about them going on the Rosslare line. The train departed Galway at 15:05 and arrived in Heuston at 17:35 The train was going fast the entire journey which helps:D:D..
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Several hundreds of million spent on the route and the standard of service is going to be inferior to that provided in the 1980's - where is the sense in that or indeed value for money? |
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Just a few points. First class facilities were never available on the MK2 trains on the Rosslare line. There is indeed Fastrack facilities (ie a cupboard). This is in use on the Sligo 22K for Fastrack. New bicyle racks are being fitted (at the expence of seats). Rosslare services will be operated by just 3 coach 22K sets. Main issue is the length of most platforms on the route. The present six coach 28K is the longest trains that can be used at present. If 3 coach trains are the best we can hope for then the number of services need to be increased however in the current climate I doubt this will happen. |
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Billions on new track and trains yet journey times have decreased and customer service is poor on the whole. |
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What about the mk2s that used to be on this line? they seemed longer (071 engine + generator van + 6 coaches) I really don't think a 6 coach 22k should cause any problems. In my opinion IE should have ordered 6 coach sets only. I do not like the idea of trains becoming shorter for Intercity routes. |
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There will be 6 coach 22k services to Rosslare. Only one station is a problem, Rathdrum and as it stands it means only 1 door will be unusable.
Three options exist 1. Old fashioned public address warning 2. Get the ticket checker to use his/her key to set the door to out of service when the train leaves Wicklow or Rathdrum 3. Use the train computer to provide selective door opening, the computer certainly shows the state of every door in the train, I've had a play around with it They will have 370-380 seats a train which is about 20 more than the Mk2 sets of old, plus it can carry 4 wheelchairs and 4 bikes. The CIE Mk2d must go down in history as one of the most horrible passenger coaches ever to grace these Islands Curiously enough the Rosslare line has shown the greatest reduction in journey times of any route when you compare 1974 against today |
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