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sublimity 26-08-2009 10:44

Thanks for that info Thomas. New Rosslare timetable should really go ahead. Waiting way too long... Fingers crossed

Trampas 26-08-2009 12:01

any ideas on what the new Dart times will be like.

I usually get the 1542 from Lansdowne to Connolly to catch the Sligo train to Maynooth.

Will this train move? If so any ideas on how much?

ThomasJ 28-08-2009 13:00

website is now telling us the current timetable has been extended to the 31st october 2009

Quote:

Runs every Monday to Saturday from 15 June until 31 October;

sublimity 28-08-2009 23:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThomasJ (Post 48905)
website is now telling us the current timetable has been extended to the 31st october 2009

and then it will be November and before we know it it will be christmas when its introduced. bloody hell!

ThomasJ 30-09-2009 11:14

Looks like the timetable has been pushed back again!

Quote:

Runs every Monday to Saturday from 20 July until 28 November;

sublimity 30-09-2009 20:07

What did I tell ya. Absolute joke

KSW 30-09-2009 21:17

I think its high time for someone in a higher authority to get onto Iarnrod Eireann, This is getting a joke especially for Rosslare line users.

Another two months..:confused:

sublimity 30-09-2009 21:43

It's shocking really. I give up. The people of Wexford deserve InterCity carriages. Comfort is at an all time low. The way Irish Rail have treated customers on the Rosslare line has been appalling. It's UNBELIEVABLE.:mad:

paddyb180285 02-10-2009 16:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by KSW (Post 49866)
I think its high time for someone in a higher authority to get onto Iarnrod Eireann, This is getting a joke especially for Rosslare line users.

Another two months..:confused:

As irritating as the delay is, the Malahide viaduct collapsed causing major disruption to north bound commuters. The introduction of the new timetable seems to be tied in with the date when this situation is rectified. The timetable change for the Rosslare line is obviously co-ordinated with the timetable change of services on other lines. With the current timetable still valid to the rest of the country, could make it quite difficult to introduce the new Rosslare timetable.

However, it does remain possible to change the timetable for trains radiating outwards from Heuston as it deals a completely different sequence of routes. I guess that in this particular case the lack of usage of the Phoenix Park Tunnel is a blessing in disguise. Nevertheless, the delay of timetable changes here is an absolute shambles.

paddyb180285 23-10-2009 16:23

Has anyone noticed that the online timetable doesn't go beyond the end of November?

Mark Gleeson 23-10-2009 16:28

Thats because the Malahide Viaduct will reopen before then and the new timetable will come into force probably very end November start December.

Its no secret, the online timetable will always have at least 28 days ahead

chris 23-10-2009 22:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson (Post 50347)
Its no secret, the online timetable will always have at least 28 days ahead

So we'll know for definite come 2/3 November what they have in store for us in the post-December timetable?

paddyb180285 30-10-2009 17:04

I thought that I should let y'all know that the current online timetable from the 16 of November has been fully restored as has been promised following the complete repair of the Malahide Viaduct. However, what month would y'all say is when Irish Rail will introduce the new timables?

ThomasJ 02-11-2009 22:47

So we are beyond the 28 day threshold. Currently you are unable to book beyond the 28th november.

So what do you reckon ? Will we see the new timetable in the coming days ?

sublimity 02-11-2009 22:53

Looks like its finally going to happen:)

wobbles 04-11-2009 09:01

New Rosslare Line Timetable
 
Those of us waiting for the new Rosslare timetable are in for a major shock. No increase in services as promised and no major reduction in journey times :mad:

ThomasJ 04-11-2009 09:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by wobbles (Post 50629)
Those of us waiting for the new Rosslare timetable are in for a major shock. No increase in services as promised and no major reduction in journey times :mad:

any idea wobbles is the new rosslare line timetable the timetable that was posted here a couple of months ago ?

Mark Gleeson 04-11-2009 09:17

I'm told the actual one is similar some changes

wobbles 04-11-2009 09:19

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Originally Posted by ThomasJ (Post 50630)
any idea wobbles is the new rosslare line timetable the timetable that was posted here a couple of months ago ?

No. It is much like the current timetable with the 1640 and 1725 services extended to Wexford. The 2005 ex Enniscorthy now starts from Wexford at 19.30. The 11.35 Gorey is put back till around 12.00 and only operates to Arklow.

ThomasJ 04-11-2009 09:27

Why keep the current times ?

I would have thought with the gorey rosslare line been a low frequency timetable the least they could have done would be make the timetable clockface and make the last one later.

What an anti climax for rosslare passengers !

Whats the latest on the dart and commuter clockface timetables ? Is that happening ?

Trampas 04-11-2009 09:36

Will the new timetables allow for people to make changes to commuter, intercity or dart services without having to be there 20 mins early due to their connection leaving as they arrive on their train.

sublimity 04-11-2009 10:49

The most important question: Will the new timetable be operated by intercity rolling stock?

Mark Gleeson 04-11-2009 11:00

My guess is we won't be seeing the 3 car ICR sets on all services. They are still short sets 10 and 11 which had to be sent back due in transit damage

Word is they have been scrapped in Korea and a completly new sets 10 and 11 are being built at no cost to IE

Nothing we can do until we see the actual published timetable, Irish Rail deny the accuracy of the timetables they have leaked and have been obtained by ourselves and others

PLUMB LOCO 04-11-2009 12:25

I have heard that the early morning (05.44) train ex Arklow that was to be axed in the new timetable will now start from Enniscorthy and continue to give a connection for Waterford at Rosslare Strand but you still won't be able to travel back to Wexford or Enniscorthy EVER!!! Clearly IE are catering for the emigration market to Waterford. :D

ciaram 04-11-2009 12:40

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Originally Posted by sublimity (Post 50636)
The most important question: Will the new timetable be operated by intercity rolling stock?

Just checking there and they have the new timetables online at the moment from the 28th. According to that all trains except the 17:30 are showing as intercity. No sigh of new services, just rejigged times and extensions to existing services.

Should be fun trying to crowd the standing crowd on a 2900 into a 3 carriage ICR :( on some services, particularly as it's still only 3 services each way at weekends from Enniscorthy onwards

Charlie Hungerford 04-11-2009 12:55

Just seen the Northern line one - up to 10 mins of padding on some services, partly disguised by additional stops at Gormanston.

ThomasJ 04-11-2009 12:58

New timetable now online
 
DART is now clockface but what a shocker!

every 15 minutes in peak hours included.

Maynooth line not too bad but no longer clockface in evening departs at :29 and :59 no major changes to sunday!

No major changes to sligo services.

Charlie Hungerford 04-11-2009 13:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThomasJ (Post 50650)
DART is now clockface but what a shocker!

Malahide ones aren't though - only those leaving Howth are. Plus the clockface interval seems to change during the day. :D

Charlie Hungerford 04-11-2009 13:12

The WRC times are in the system!!!

Limerick - Galway week days:
06:00 [Arrives 08:25]
09:35 [Arrives 11:34]
11:55 [Arrives 13:51]
14:15 [Arrives 16:13]
18:05 [Arrives 20:00]

Galway - Limerick:
06:04 [Arrives 08:39]
09:45 [Arrives 11:48]
12:10 [Arrives 14:08]
14:30 [Arrives 16:28]
17.25 [Arrives 19.24]

There are also four services each way on Sundays.

ThomasJ 04-11-2009 13:46

Noticable Rosslare line changes
 
The new intercity carriages may be a good thing but timings! :eek: to gorey
time differerence between old and new highlighted in bold

time 2009 2010

early morn 1:51 1:51 0

late morn 1:52 n/a

lunchtime 1:38 1:52 0:14

eve peak 1 (16h) 1:53 1:52 -0:01

eve peak 2 (17h) 1:54 2:00 0:06

eve peak 3 (18h) 1:47 1:54 0:07

only benefit is 1 minute off the 16:30/16:40 connolly gorey/wexford service

extra 26 minutes in total and 1 service less for gorey passengers

chris 04-11-2009 13:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie Hungerford (Post 50652)
The WRC times are in the system!!!

Galway - Limerick:
06:40 [Arrives 08:39]
09:45 [Arrives 11:48]
12:10 [Arrives 14:08]
14:30 [Arrives 16:28]
17.25 [Arrives 19.24]

The first service in the other direction is the only one to take 2:25, due to an unfortunate 25 minute layover in Ennis.

Trampas 04-11-2009 13:54

I have a 7 min connection time to get from platform 7 to 3 all things going well.

I see the 1705 Sligo train is first stop Maynooth.

I can see this train been popular for Maynooth people

Mark Gleeson 04-11-2009 14:32

Looks like I'll be crushed in going home, its a DART every fifteen minutes going southbound, its going to be fun

Trampas 04-11-2009 14:34

It appears the 1620 from Connolly to Maynooth is gone.

ThomasJ 04-11-2009 14:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trampas (Post 50666)
It appears the 1620 from Connolly to Maynooth is gone.

looks like its been brought forward to 16.18

ACustomer 04-11-2009 14:51

I suppose it was inevitable there would be service cutbacks, but the Cork-Dublin service has hugely deteriorated (with the exception of the new fast 0630). For example the 1630 now has 10 stops and takes 3 hours: others are not much better. The 1730 (which used to be the main evening up express service is now 2 h 25m and has about 6 stops).

I would imagine tha punctuality will go to hell with so many stops (even allowing for the existing padding). Then will they try to restore punctuality by adding another 10 minutes next year?

All this when the new Dublin-Cork motorway will be complete. So much for rising to meet the challenge!

Mark Gleeson 04-11-2009 14:58

The half hourly service to Greystones (for which demand is not there, 45 minutes maybe) is implemented by having a second train it appears, the second departing immediately after the firsts arrival. The 33 minute turnaround allows for a drivers 30 minute break so should reduce staff change delays

I can see this going badly wrong as it requires a level of precision unheard of from IE. Now what happens if a train is 10 minutes late into Bray, it can either delay the next Greystones train by 7 minutes or sit in Bray for a further 7 minutes while a train comes up from Greystones and arrive 17 minutes late.

ThomasJ 04-11-2009 16:10

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Iarnród Éireann has outlined a range of service changes to take effect later this month.

The highlight of the changes, which will be introduced from November 29th, will be a new joint service in each direction between Dublin and Galway / Westport.

The new Intercity railcar fleet which now operates these routes give the flexibility to introduce European-style “split and join” services.

Two new early bird Monday to Friday services, an 05.15 Westport to Dublin and 06.05 Galway to Dublin will leave Westport and Galway as two three-carriage trains, and will join together at Athlone to complete the journey as one service.

Similarly, a new 15.30 service from Dublin to Galway/Westport will operate from Dublin to Athlone as one train, and split at Athlone, with the front 3 carriages operating to Galway, and the rear 3 carriages to Westport. This will increase the number of trains on these route from three to four each way daily for Westport, and from seven to eight each way daily for Galway.

The new Intercity railcar fleet allows the company to expand services on both routes in an economical way, meaning that even in this difficult economic environment, we can bring service improvements to these routes in a cost-effective manner. This has been the focus of our service review, to ensure we maintain strong services while controlling costs.



OTHER MAJOR SERVICE CHANGES FROM 29TH NOVEMBER

Note: Customers on all routes should check departure times from 29th November for all services, as there may be minor changes, including some earlier departure times.

Waterford-Dublin

A new express 07.10 Waterford to Heuston service (Monday to Saturday) will be introduced, with one intermediate stop only, at Carlow. This service will deliver a journey time of two hours from Waterford to Dublin, ideal for customers with business and other appointments in the capital. In addition, it offers an express commuter service from Carlow, serving Carlow at 8.06, and arriving in Dublin in 64 minutes.

Journey time savings of up to 15 minutes will be delivered on many services on the Dublin/Waterford route due to the operational improvements delivered by the new fleet. Most journey times will be between 2 hours 15 and 2 hours 30 minutes on the route.

Westport – Dublin & Galway - Dublin

As well as the new “split and join” services detailed above, journey time improvements will be delivered on most services, with journey time savings of up to 17 minutes.

The first morning weekday service from Dublin to Westport and Galway will also be an amalgamated service at 07.30hrs, splitting at Athlone.

The 6.05 service from Galway to Dublin will also operate on Saturdays.

Cork – Dublin & Tralee - Dublin

The 06.30 Cork to Dublin service will serve Mallow only en route, to deliver an express service with a journey time of 2 hours 30 minutes.

This will also deliver, through a connection from the 05.20 Tralee to Mallow/Cork service, a journey time of 3 hours 40 minutes from Tralee to Dublin, and 3 hours 15 minutes from Killarney to Dublin.

One service in each direction will be removed (19.30 Cork to Heuston and 20.00 Heuston to Cork), with the last services remaining as the 20.30 Cork to Heuston and 21.00 Heuston to Cork, and a total of 14 services each way daily.

Limerick – Dublin

The number of services each way daily will increase from 15 to 16, with an increase in the number of connecting services at Limerick Junction, and a decrease in direct services.

Rosslare Europort/Wexford – Dublin

The number of direct services for Wexford increase to five, with the extension of the 16.30 Connolly to Wexford (previously terminated at Gorey), and 17.30 Connolly to Wexford (previously terminated at Enniscorthy.

There will also be an additional evening direct service from Wexford to Dublin at 19.30. In addition, there will be increased use of the new Intercity railcar fleet on the route.

Sligo – Dublin (incl. Longford / Mullingar commuter)

A new early morning 5.45 service from Longford to Pearse will be introduced, offering an additional commuting option for customers from Longford, Edgesworthtown, and Mullingar. In addition, the 17.05 Connolly to Sligo service will have an additional stop at Maynooth, offering an express evening commute option for Maynooth commuters.

DART services

In a major review of DART schedules, a new regular 15-minute interval service is to be introduced across the full day (Monday to Saturday), with additional services operating at peak times (Monday to Friday) to match demand.

This will result in Greystones seeing a major increase in services with every second DART serving the Co Wicklow town, resulting in a service every 30 minutes (Monday to Friday).

This, together with Rosslare and Wexford/Arklow services, will see the service frequency from Greystones to Dublin go up from 33 trains daily to 42.

The regular interval service will eliminate occasional significant gaps in service at off-peak times, and give an easily understandable pattern of services through the day for customers.

Waterford to Limerick Junction

Service frequency will be revised from four trains each way daily to three.

Other routes and intermediate stations

Customers are again reminded to check times of travel for all journeys from 29th November onwards, on all routes and for intermediate stations.

Full details for the new schedules are now available on www.irishrail.ie via the timetable, and downloadable route specific pdfs will be available very shortly.

http://www.irishrail.ie/news_centre/...ew&news_id=551

ThomasJ 04-11-2009 16:12

So the current early morning departure from Enfield (7ish) is now extended to longford in the new timetable

Mark Gleeson 04-11-2009 16:18

That with the extra morning train eliminates the empty movements of the past, extending the Enfield train also means it doesn't run empty from Connolly. Fairly sure this solution was posted on this form last year


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