View Full Version : [Article] All out bus strike on the way??
Not directly a Rail issue yet, but will have a major impact on passengers making bus connections etc. if it happens
From Breaking News http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/mhsnsncwcwgb/
Angry drivers tonight voted to go on strike if Bus Éireann and Dublin Bus enforce cost cutting plans that will axe hundreds of jobs.
The National Bus and Rail Union (NBRU) said it has received an overwhelming mandate from members in both companies to engage in industrial action, up to and including all-out strike, if they proceed with cost effectiveness recovery plans without agreement.
The massive wave of job cuts which could see around 600 workers laid off, including 270 drivers.
Other measures proposed by the companies are changes in work practice which the union claims would have the potential to decimate surviving members' earnings, severely cut services on some routes, and eliminate other routes.
The NBRU said these would also have a significant negative impact on the travelling public.
A special meeting of the union's national executive council will meet tomorrow, after which it will make a formal announcement regarding future industrial action
NBRU general secretary Michael Faherty said after the completion of the ballot both companies are aware that negotiations on any changes cannot commence until such time as the issue of the sacking of the 270 drivers has been satisfactorily addressed.
Last month, Dublin Bus unveiled plans to cut 290 jobs and withdraw 120 buses while Bus Éireann was targeting 322 job losses and taking 150 buses off the roads.
And RTE News http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0216/bus.html
Bus and rail workers have voted for industrial action if Bus Éireann and Dublin Bus proceed without agreement with plans to cut back services and lay off 270 drivers.
The National Bus & Rail Union said it received an overwhelming mandate from its members for industrial action up to and including all-out strike.
The NBRU is convening a special meeting of its national executive council tomorrow to formally decide future action.
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It has been announced 28th of february and another 2 planned for the 9th and 10th of march (monday and tuesday) :(
Bus drivers at Bus Éireann and Dublin Bus will mount a one-day strike on Saturday 28 February in protest at 600 planned redundancies at the two State companies.
The decision was taken at a meeting of the national executive of the National Bus and Rail Union (NBRU) this afternoon.
A further two-day strike is planned for 9 and 10 March.
AdvertisementNBRU General Secretary Michael Faherty said the stoppage on 28 February would coincide with the sacking of 160 drivers at Dublin Bus.
In a statement Dublin Bus says it has not yet received official notification of any industrial action by the drivers' unions.
The company says it has no choice but to implement the cost-cutting plan at the start of next month.
The Minister for Transport has said in the Dáil that he wants an efficient, effective transport service for the country, which meets the needs of customers.
Noel Dempsey said he had secured an investment of over €313m and there was not anymore money to give to the bus and rail companies.
He was responding to Labour Deputy Tommy Broughan who said the workers at Dublin Bus had voted to go on strike because of his handling of public transport policy. He asked the Minister why there was no voluntary redundancy option at Dublin Bus.
Taxi drivers staged another protest in Dublin today calling for a moratorium on new licences, as they say there is not enough work for the number of drivers now available in Dublin.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0217/transport.html
if you think packed trains in rush hour are bad enough at the moment wait till the 9th and 10th a monday and tuesday when normal bus passengers are using the trains. I have a feeling this is going to be hell and hope to god train drivers dont join them.
And guess what rugby match is on the 28th?
From RTE http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0218/transport.html
SIPTU shop stewards have decided that there will be an all-out strike at Dublin Bus from 1 March if management pushes forward with cost-cutting measures.
The union made the decision after receiving a mandate from its members.
Yesterday, bus drivers at Bus Éireann and Dublin Bus said they would mount a one-day strike on Saturday 28 February in protest at 600 planned redundancies at the two State companies.
A further two-day strike was planned for 9 and 10 March.
Separately, Minister for Transport Noel Dempsey has told the Oireachtas transport committee that passengers have been deserting CIÉ bus services at a dramatic rate over the last six to eight months.
He said that was despite the Government giving it €313m in public money - a subsidy that was up 34% since 2002.
The minister also warned that the CIÉ bus companies could lose €100m this year unless costs were cut.
Mr Dempsey said nobody wanted to see bus strikes but there had to be reform.
sublimity
18-02-2009, 18:31
Well Irish Rail will be happy if this materialises.
Better start lenghtening those trains!
Well Irish Rail will be happy if this materialises.
Better start lenghtening those trains!
The problem is they cant! They haven't got the resources. For the likes of the Maynooth line overcrowding is matched by the 66/67/37/39 packed services there is no doubt people if they dont drive the work will take the train. I can see this being bad all right!
Of course only some of us have the priviledge of being able to travel by rail!
RadarControl
19-02-2009, 09:44
Is there any chance that the Irish Rail NBRU members will go out in sympathy strike?
Thomas Ralph
19-02-2009, 10:03
At least they've exempted CIÉ staff from the public service pension levy.
Is there any chance that the Irish Rail NBRU members will go out in sympathy strike?
They're not legally allowed because they're not members of the same company.
Mark Gleeson
19-02-2009, 11:20
At least they've exempted CIÉ staff from the public service pension levy.
Pension contributions inside Irish Rail by staff either have increased or will be
Thomas Ralph
19-02-2009, 12:35
Pension contributions inside Irish Rail by staff either have increased or will be
Well, not as far as the Financial Emergency Measures in the Public Interest Act 2009 is concerned, but (I would expect) through another measure.
Mark Gleeson
19-02-2009, 13:22
It dates from November, seeking a doubling of contribution to prop the fund up
Mark Gleeson
25-02-2009, 16:31
Its been called off
Dublin Bus drivers' strike called off
SIPTU has called off a planned strike by bus drivers at Dublin Bus, it was confirmed this afternoon.
Drivers were due to go on strike on Sunday over the company's cost cutting plan, which would see 290 jobs axed and 120 buses withdrawn from service.
SIPTU said the strike had been deferred because the company had agreed not to implement the job cuts, creating space for talks to take place.
http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/national-news/dublin-bus-drivers-strike-called-off-1653526.html
NBRU saying nothing
Colm Moore
25-02-2009, 21:57
NBRU saying nothingThey haven't suggested a strike though, have they?
EDIT: Strike cancelled.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0225/dublinbus.htmlStrikes averted at Dublin Bus
watch listen Wednesday, 25 February 2009 21:22
The two main unions at Dublin Bus have called off their planned strike action pending the outcome of fresh talks with the company's management on Monday.
The National Bus and Rail Union had planned a one-day strike on Saturday over the company's plans to cut 270 jobs.
SIPTU had planned a continuous strike from Sunday, but both have been called off following talks at the Labour Relations Commission today.
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Management at Dublin Bus said they have agreed to postpone their cost-cutting plans to allow new talks to begin at the LRC on Monday.
SIPTU Branch Organiser Willie Noone said: 'The action by our members has been deferred after the company agreed to enter direct talks with us under the auspices of the LRC over its cost-cutting plan.
'The company has also agreed not to implement threatened job cuts and this has helped create a space within which talks can take place.'
NBRU General Secretary Michael Faherty said: 'We outlined our opposition to the commission in relation to the sacking of 160 drivers on Saturday and reiterated our position that voluntary severance should be made available to senior drivers instead.
'The Labour Relations Commission then issued a proposal, which included agreement that voluntary severance would form part of future negotiations, and asked both parties to suspend any action or actions for a period of one week.
'The week will be used by all parties, under the auspices of the LRC, to engage in intensive discussions on the company's Cost Effectiveness Plan.
'In the light of this the NBRU has decided to suspend the strike action planned for Saturday.'
Colm Moore
06-03-2009, 19:07
http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/News-Centre/Travel-News/Planned-Service-Changes-Deferred--Updated-6th-March-2009/Planned Service Changes Deferred – Updated 6th March 2009
Friday, March 06, 2009
Dublin Bus wishes to inform customers that proposed service changes have been deferred to allow for continuing discussion between the company and trade unions at the Labour Relations Commission.
so were back to square one following last nights rejection of the proposals
From The Herald
http://www.herald.ie/national-news/city-news/bus-strikes-imminent-if-company-cuts-costs-1680266.html
COMMUTERS are set to be hit with strikes at Dublin Bus from March 29, if the company pushes ahead with cost-cutting plans.
Dublin Bus is expected to implement its original savings proposals after workers rejected a compromise agreement.
As part of restructuring proposals negotiated at the Labour Relations Commission, 160 jobs would have been saved and 80 older drivers would have been allowed to take voluntary redundancy.
rejection
But members of Siptu and the NBRU overwhelmingly voted against the LRC deal.
This means the company is likely to revert to its original plan, which includes making 160 newly recruited drivers redundant.
However, unions have said strike action will be implemented if Dublin Bus goes ahead with the cuts.
Willie Noone of Siptu said, for the strike to be averted, the company would have to engage "proactively with the trade union".
Dublin Bus said the proposals represented "a very reasonable and practical compromise" in the light of its current financial situation.
and the independent
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/bus-strike-looming-as-drivers-reject-jobsaving-compromise-1679736.html
Bus strike looming as drivers reject job-saving compromise
Friday March 20 2009
THE prospect of crippling strikes at Dublin Bus resurfaced last night after workers overwhelmingly rejected a plan to resolve a dispute over cutbacks.
SIPTU and National Bus and Rail Union (NBRU) members rejected proposals agreed by their representatives at the Labour Relations Commission (LRC) last week, which would have prevented the lay-off of 160 probabtionary drivers.
About 90pc of NBRU members voted against the proposals, while SIPTU workers were 80pc opposed to the compromises.
It is understood that major changes to work practices, including the introduction of a new shift pattern from Friday to Monday, led to the proposals being defeated.
The new shift pattern would have dramatically cut drivers' overtime payments.
Immediately after the result, Dublin Bus, which plans to axe 120 buses, expressed disappointment at the result but said its cutbacks could wait no longer and it would press ahead with lay-offs and changes to its services on March 29.Both unions, which represent 2,800 drivers, have a mandate for strike action if the company goes ahead with the cost-cutting measures without agreement with drivers.
SIPTU branch organiser Willie Noone said he was pessimistic about any chances of a reconciliation, even involving the Labour Court.
"I think we are heading to a dispute on March 29," he said.
"Our view would be that Dublin Bus should use the Labour Court before that date. Nevertheless, I don't believe at this stage that the Labour Court could hugely change the proposals."
NBRU general secretary Michael Faherty said the impact of the cost-cutting plans was "so severe" that members felt they had no alternative but to reject the proposals.
Obstacles
He said that key obstacles to agreement were the impact on drivers' wages and conditions, the reduction in the bus fleet and the effect on commuters.
SIPTU spokesman Mr Noone said: "Quite clearly, drivers do not accept 120 buses must be taken out of the fleet and they are also very anxious to protect their job security.
"Our members also remain adamant that the company does not attempt to implement any cost-cutting plans until negotiating procedures are exhausted."
Dublin Bus said the proposals represented "a very reasonable and practical compromise" given its serious financial situation and the economic climate.
"Under the LRC proposals, all driving staff would retain their current pay rates and there would have been no requirement for compulsory redundancy," the company said.
"Dublin Bus, like all other companies, faces significant challenges as a result of the current economic climate, and projected losses for 2009 will be €31m unless urgent action is taken."
It said its cost effectiveness plan, first presented to unions on January 16, could no longer be delayed and would be implemented from March 29.
- Anne-Marie Walsh and Brian Hutton
And RTE http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0320/dublinbus.html
Dublin Bus strike may follow vote
Friday, 20 March 2009 13:13
Dublin Bus passengers face a possible strike if the company goes ahead with its cost-cutting plan.
SIPTU branch organiser Willie Noone said on RTÉ's Morning Ireland that industrial action will take place from Sunday 29 March if the company goes ahead without unions' agreement.
The two unions representing drivers at the company voted to reject a proposed agreement reached with the Labour Relations Commission on cost-cutting at Dublin Bus.
Members of SIPTU and the NBRU were said to be concerned about the implications of taking 120 buses out of the fleet, changes to work practices and job security.
Dublin Bus expressed disappointment at the outcome of the ballots and said it had now no option but to implement its cost effectiveness plan.
RadarControl
23-03-2009, 09:40
Does anybody know if Irish Rail or Luas will be taking part in the National Strike on the 30th of March? As far as I know the staff in Luas while unionised signed non-strike agreements with Veoila management when they started. Dublin Bus will be out on strike.
Mark Gleeson
23-03-2009, 09:49
No word of any strike within Irish Rail, no ballot taken => no strike
Mark Hennessy
23-03-2009, 10:00
Does anybody know if Irish Rail or Luas will be taking part in the National Strike on the 30th of March? As far as I know the staff in Luas while unionised signed non-strike agreements with Veoila management when they started. Dublin Bus will be out on strike.
I was just about to ask that!
I certainly hope that Irish Rail staff have the sense not to strike next Monday but I am still expecting disruption.
I was just about to ask that!
I certainly hope that Irish Rail staff have the sense not to strike next Monday but I am still expecting disruption.
I have to say i agree!
While they maybe seperate companies they are still CIE through and through under the same unions so I am personally unconvinced whether some Irish Rail staff will walk out in sympathy with their bus comrades! Who knows what will happen!
Mark Hennessy
23-03-2009, 21:08
RTE saying all transport* to be impacted next Monday.
So what is it, when will passengers know if they can get a train next Monday or not? :rolleyes:
* Transport = CIE in my opinion, I doubt the Luas will be affected.
Sunday is not looking good is it?
From todays Independent
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/commuters-face-chaos-as-bus-strike-looms-in-city-1684918.html
THE THREAT of an all-out strike which could affect 500,000 Dublin Bus users from this weekend grew yesterday after the union accused the company of treating employees "with contempt".
Differences between Dublin Bus and union representatives appeared to deepen yesterday, with SIPTU demanding that the company open negotiations with all non-driver employees, claiming they have been ignored up to this point.
But a Dublin Bus spokeswoman insisted that the company could not delay planned cutbacks any longer and that it would press ahead with lay-offs and changes to its service this Sunday, March 29.
However both the National Bus and Rail Union and SIPTU have a mandate for strike action if the company goes ahead with the cost-cutting measures without agreement.
Last week, union members overwhelmingly voted down proposals forged at mediation talks at the Labour Relations Commission to end the row over a planned 160 redundancies. Yesterday SIPTU formally requested the Labour Court to intervene but given that the deadline for the strike is so close, it is unlikely it can be averted in time.
Meanwhile, in a hardening of positions last night, SIPTU branch organiser Willie Noone accused the company of treating all non-driver employees with contempt by failing to negotiate in any way with engineers, administrative staff and other staff.
In a letter to the human resources manager at Dublin Bus, Mr Noone said: "This Union is requesting, as a matter of urgency, that the Company forward dates in relation to setting up meetings with these categories of staff in order to conclude discussions on their proposals," he said.
Last night a Dublin Bus spokeswoman said the company had received the letter from SIPTU and was considering it.
However, the company remains adamant that it will press ahead with its Cost Effectiveness Plan from this Sunday, insisting it had no option, citing "the current economic climate" and the fact that "project losses for 2009 will be €31m unless urgent action is taken".
This will effect rail passengers who have to rely on bus connections.
Mark Hennessy
25-03-2009, 13:01
Sunday is not looking good is it?
From todays Independent
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/commuters-face-chaos-as-bus-strike-looms-in-city-1684918.html
This will effect rail passengers who have to rely on bus connections.
Those who bought season tickets for Bus + Train of course will not be compensated.
I think, sadly, the moral of the story is to move somewhere along the Luas line or just use your car or bicycle if you want to get about Dublin.
CIE management and the union leaders are conspiring to make life miserable for the travelling public.
100% agree, I pesonally believe not one party in this dispute are putting the passengers interest first :(
With regards to next monday its been postponed
The Irish Congress of Trade Unions has deferred its planned national 'day of protest' next Monday after being invited into fresh talks on an economic recovery plan.
The Government made the invitation last night in an effort to prevent several trade unions from engaging strike action as part of next Monday's protests.
ICTU's executive council accepted the invitation today and decided to postpone the planned national demonstration.
The organisation says it was happy that the Government and the employers' body IBEC were both expressing openness towards a 10-point recovery plan put forward by the trade unions.
http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/eyaueyauojau/
From Dublin Bus
http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/News-Centre/Travel-News/Planned-service-changes-29th-March-deferred/
Planned service changes 29th March deferred
The service changes due to take place on Sunday 29th of March have been deferred. Dublin Bus has been invited to attend a Labour Court hearing on Tuesday March 31st and has accepted this invitation.
Thomas Ralph
26-03-2009, 21:14
Pity about the airport strike next Thursday (link (http://news.eircom.net/breakingnews/general/15267968/?view=Standard)). And it had to be the day I'm due to fly out to NY :mad:
So it looks like full steam ahead!
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2009/0401/breaking74.htm
Labour Court green-lights Dublin Bus fleet cut
MARTIN WALL, Industry CorrespondentThe Labour Court has said Dublin Bus can go ahead without delay with plans to take 120 buses from its fleet.
In new settlement terms put forward today in the row over a controversial cost-saving plan at the company, the Labour Court also proposed that weekend overtime earning potential for drivers be increased.
It also said there should be no dilution of current shift pay arrangements.
However it proposed changes to current paid meal break arrangements for drivers which the company believes could generate about €350,000 in savings.
Dublin Bus is seeking to implement new cost-saving measures, including the reduction of 120 buses from its fleet, in a bid to address a potential €31 million deficit this year. However last week drivers at the company rejected compromise proposals drawn up by the Labour Relations Commission and warned of strike action in the event of management introducing reforms without agreement.
Industrial action over the cost-cutting plan, which could have affected up to 450,000 passengers daily, was averted last weekend following the intervention of the Labour Court.
In a recommendation issued today the court said that due to the serious financial position of the company and the weekly losses incurred as a result of the delay in introducing the cost-effectiveness plan that service reductions should commence without delay.
"These service reductions should commence on a phased basis. However all service reductions should be complete by April 26th, 2009. Such changes should be implemented, even if agreement cannot be reached by that date, and any areas of disagreement dealt with after implementation", it said.
It is understood Dublin Bus has estimated it is currently losing €500,000 per week.
Dublin Bus said last night that it was considering the Labour Court recommendation.
Dublin Bus Human Resources Manager Gerry Maguire said that the Labour Court deal had been carefully designed to have the least impact on customers, staff and staffing numbers and to ensure that the projected losses of €31 million are addressed.
Siptu said last night that it would be holding a mass meeting of members in Dublin Bus at Liberty Hall tomorrow (FRI) to discuss the Labour Court recommendation. It said that it would be asking drivers to give serious consideration to the proposals.
Branch Organiser Willie Noone said: “SIPTU will be advising members that considerable progress has been made in the Labour Court compared with the company’s original proposals. The Branch Committee will be advising them that we have now exhausted the dispute resolution procedures and there is no other forum which can intervene or to which we can refer the dispute”.
“Among the advances is a more equitable distribution of the effects of the proposals among drivers, including the total elimination of the company proposal to cut shift pay”, he said.
Siptu said that it was it was disappointed at the scale of the cutbacks in the size of the Dublin Bus fleet but argued that this “was a political decision outside the company’s control”.
From the Irish Times
Thomas Ralph
09-04-2009, 10:55
Well, Dublin Bus has gone ahead (http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/News-Centre/Travel-News/Service-Changes-12th-April/) with the changes. Making the (rather large) assumption that they're not going to all go out on strike, there's been a hatchet job on buses from Heuston.
The 90 (Heuston-Bachelor's Walk-IFSC-Connolly-Tara Street-Aston Quay-Heuston) is cut back to 4 services an hour from 0645-1000 five days a week.
The 92 (Heuston-Bachelor's Walk-D'Olier Street-Kildare Street-St. Stephen's Green-Leeson Street-St. Stephen's Green-Dawson Street-Suffolk Street-Westmoreland Street-Aston Quay-Heuston) is increased from every 20 minutes to every 15 minutes Monday to Saturday, but the last services are at 1945 from Heuston and 2010 to Heuston on weekdays, an hour earlier than the previous last services. The Saturday service has been extended to match the weekday service, and a Sunday service has been added with roughly hourly buses from 0830 to 2235.
The effect of this is that there will now be no bus service connecting Heuston to Connolly outside the morning window from 0645-1000. While the Luas does cover the connection, there are plenty of commuters whose tickets cover the bus but not the Luas.
Additionally, there is an average loss of 3 services per hour from Aston Quay to Heuston for most of the day. (I'm not taking into account the 91 service, because it doesn't have a reliable timetable.) Again the Luas is a short walk away, but it's already extremely crowded at the morning and evening peak times, and the same problem with ticketing applies — family day return tickets, for example, include the bus but not the Luas.
I'm conviced there will be no dublin bus service from sunday. am already making alternative arrangements where needed! Its a time to be thankful for irish rail :eek: (as long as they dont join their commorades on strike in sympathy)
The cutbacks have been deferred again!
http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0409/dublinbus.html
The threat for a strike by Dublin Bus drivers has been postponed following Labour Court talks this afternoon.
Dublin Bus management have agreed to defer for one week implementation of cost cutting measures due to come into force next Sunday.
The Labour Court today agreed to a request by unions for clarification on the impact of new work practises.
AdvertisementThe bus drivers are particularly concerned about the effect the implementation of legal limits on driving times will have on overtime earnings.
The Labour Court agreed to issue a clarification next Tuesday and Dublin Bus management then agreed to defer cutbacks including the withdrawal of 120 buses from its fleet.
Colm Moore
09-04-2009, 19:22
http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/News-Centre/Travel-News/Service-Changes-12th-April/Service Changes Deferred
Thursday, April 09, 2009
Following an invitation Dublin Bus attended talks at the Labour Court this afternoon. The Labour Court has decided to clarify a number of issues contained in their earlier recommendation. They will issue the clarifications to the Company and the Trade Unions early next week.
The Labour Court has requested that the Company defer the implementation of its Cost Effectiveness Plan (due to be implemented this Sunday 12th April) for a period of one week in order to give the opportunity for this final attempt to resolve the issue.
Dublin Bus has agreed to this request in the interest of our customers.
Service Changes 12th April Deferred
Due to lower passenger numbers in the current economic climate, Dublin Bus will reduce the number of buses in its fleet. These changes have been planned to ensure that all areas will continue to have access to the Dublin Bus network and to minimise the impact on peak hour commuters.
Route and timetable changes
The following routes will have altered routing and timetables:
40/a, 40b, 40d
Route 40/40a will be extended to serve Charlestown Shopping Centre. A new Route 240 will replace Route 40b 40c operating from Tubberburr to Deanstown via Finglas Village
45
Route 45 will have a revised timetable and will operate between Bray and Ballsbridge (RDS) only
56/a
Some services will operate Tallaght to Dolphin’s Barn only
103, 104
Routes 103 and 104 will be combined with a revised routing
151
Revised routing via Griffeen Avenue (Lucan) and East Road (Docklands)and revised timetable
Low frequency services withdrawn
The following routes which currently operate a limited timetable will be withdrawn:
15x, 27c 31c 49x, 50x, 51a 58c 65x, 79x, 86, 115, 117 129, 172, 201, 202, 206. Click on each of the above routes to view alternative services.
Timetable changes
The following routes will have timetable changes, but no changes in routing. In most cases there is a minor adjustment in frequency:
1, 2, 3, 7, 7b, 7d, 11/a, 11b, 13/a, 14, 14a, 17, 18, 19, 19a, 27, 27x, 37, 37x, 38/a, 39/a/c, 39x, 41, 41a, 42a/b, 44/c, 44b, 47, 48a, 50, 51, 51b, 51c, 51d, 51x, 77, 77a, 77x, 78/a, 84x(to Newtownmountkennedy), 84x(to Kilcoole/Newcastle)90, 92, 111, 114, 116, 118, 121, 122, 128, 150, 161, 210.
Dublin Bus will continue to operate a very comprehensive network of services and has made every effort to minimise the impact of these changes on customers. We appreciate your continued support.
There are many links on the original page.
Thomas Ralph
15-04-2009, 15:23
The Dublin Bus website suggests these changes are now coming into play on Monday next, the 20th.
I wonder what the current position of the unions/drivers is?
SIPTU Is to hold a ballot today following the clarifications from the labor court results should be known this afternoon
Mark Gleeson
16-04-2009, 22:20
SIPTU has voted in favour, still waiting on NBRU, so it seems no strike
On the first day of these cutbacks there is unofficial industrial action at harristown garage. In what is reminiscent of the cork action a driver showed up given the board of a new timetable refused and since then there are no services on the following routes :
4,4a,13,13a,27b,40,40a,120,128,140,237,238,239,240 ,270
noone knows whats going to happen but it is feared drivers are saying that this action could spread to other garages tomorrow and as a result there could be disruption to services over the coming days and weeks
Just to update things have escalated this morning with clontarf garage joining the dispute meaning no bus services to howth, portmarnock, howth junction, clontarf etc
there could be heavier demand on the northside DART and northern commuter from today.
Updated on the dublin bus website as of 07:50 this morning.
http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/News-Centre/Travel-News/Service-Disruption/
Dublin Bus wishes to apologise to customers for the disruption to a number of its services. This disruption is due to unofficial Industrial action by drivers at Clontarf and Harristown depots following the introduction of service changes which were agreed and accepted following a Labour Court Recommendation.
The following routes will have No Service
4/4a Harristown to Blackrock/Stradbrook
13/13a Merrion Square to Harristown
17a Finglas to Kilbarrack
27 Talbot Street to Clare Hall
27b Eden Quay to Harristown via Beaumont Hospital
27x Clare Hall to UCD Belfield
29a Eden Quay to Newgrove Cross
31 Eden Quay to Howth Summit
31b Eden Quay to Howth Summit
32a Eden Quay to Malahide
32/b Eden Quay to Portmarnock
32x Malahide to UCD Belfield
33b Portrane/Donabate to Swords
40/a/b/c/d Finglas to City Centre
42 Lower Abbey Street to Sands Hotel (Portmarnock) / Coast Road (Malahide)
42a/b Lower Abbey Street to Blunden Drive / Beaumont Hospital (42a)
43 Lower Abbey Street to Swords Business Park
53 Eden Quay to East Wall Road
53a Eden Quay to North Wall (Alexandra Road)
83 Harristown to Kimmage
102 Sutton Station to Airport via Swords
103 Clontarf Dart Station to OMNI Shopping Centre
104 Clontarf Dart Station to Cappagh Hospital
128 Clongriffin to Rathmines (Palmerston Park)
130 Lower Abbey Street to Castle Avenue
140 Finglas to Leeson Street
142 Portmarnock to Rathmines (Palmerston Park)
237 Blanchardstown to Castleknock
238 Blanchardstown to Tyrellstown
239 Blanchardstown Shopping Centre to Liffey Valley Shopping Centre
270 Blanchardstown Shopping Centre to Dunboyne
The following routes will have a Curtailed Service
37 Hawkins Street to Carpenterstown
37x Carpenterstown to UCD Belfield
38/a Hawkins Street to Damastown
38b/c Hawkins Street to Tyrrelstown
39 Hawkins Street to Ongar
39x Ongar to UCD Belfield
41 Lower Abbey Street to Swords Manor
41x Swords to UCD Belfield
70/a Hawkins Street to Dunboyne
And RTE
http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0427/dublinbus.html
Disruption as Dublin Bus dispute escalates
Monday, 27 April 2009 11:05
There is ongoing disruption on many Dublin Bus routes due to an unofficial dispute which began at the Harristown depot.
Buses on 29 routes have been cancelled and services on a further 10 routes have been curtailed.
All services operating out of Harristown and Clontarf depots are suspended and thousands of commuters have had to make alternative travel arrangements.
Cancelled routes: 4/4a - 13/13a - 17a - 27 - 27b - 27x - 29a - 31 - 31b - 32a - 32/b - 32x - 33b - 40/a/b/c/d - 42 - 42a/b - 42a - 43 - 53 - 53a - 83 - 102 - 103 - 104 - 128 - 130 - 140 - 142 - 237 - 238 - 239 - 270.
Services curtailed: 37 - 37x - 38/a - 38b/c - 39 - 39x - 41 - 41x - 70/a.
The dispute, which began yesterday, follows the suspension of one driver who refused to work a new schedule on the 128 route.
The new schedule forms part of agreed measures designed to cut costs by €31m.
There are no services out of Clontarf garage and the routes affected are to Coolock, Malahide, Donaghmede, Howth and Portmarnock.
Garda* opened bus lanes to motorists on the northside of Dublin city this morning to ease traffic flow but the restrictions are now back in place.
It is hoped further talks may take place later today with a view to resolving the dispute.
A full list of affected services is available on www.dublinbus.ie
Mark Gleeson
27-04-2009, 10:28
And our friends in Irish Rail didn't bother to put more 8 coach DART's on despite the fact the bus routes effected hit the whole northside DART catchment area
Lots of 6 coach sets out, plenty of coaches idle
Thats a joke, IE should have seen this coming and increased capacity this morning, someone on the Boards website this morning said "killester DART station has queues round the block due to buses not running"
With the 8.32 Drogheda pearse scenario, that (transfer from 4 to 8 carriages 29k at balbriggan) seemed to indicate they were preparing for Malahide, portmarnock and howth junction. Did drogheda trains make any extra stops this morning?
Did any one have any experience of the bus or train routes effected by the problems this morning?
ACustomer
27-04-2009, 11:08
Knowing the public sector trade union mindset, putting on 8-coach DARTS would be interpreted as strike-breaking. Mad, I know.
Mark Gleeson
27-04-2009, 11:18
There are no 8 coach LHB units in service, there are spare coaches
If this was a proper management of the transport system
1. Near full 8 coach DART fleet for peak
2. Clear notice from Irish Rail that they where ready to step up to the plate
3. All monthly and annual bus tickets accepted by Irish Rail (a simple software thing in the smartcard world)
The platform display at Killester this morning said IE were accepting DB tickets. Was a lot busier than usual, didn't see large queues, though that was after nine so might have calmed down a bit.
The platform display at Killester this morning said IE were accepting DB tickets. Was a lot busier than usual, didn't see large queues, though that was after nine so might have calmed down a bit.
Neither Irish Rail nor Dublin Bus have mentioned this on their websites.
Colm Moore
27-04-2009, 16:48
http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/News-Centre/Travel-News/Service-Disruption/Service Disruption
Monday, April 27, 2009
Dublin Bus wishes to apologise to customers for the disruption to a number of its services. This disruption is due to unofficial Industrial action by drivers at Clontarf and Harristown depots following the introduction of service changes which were agreed and accepted following a Labour Court Recommendation.
Service Disruption update 17:25hrs
A limited service has been restored to the following routes
27 Talbot Street to Clare Hall
29a Eden Quay to Newgrove Cross
31 Eden Quay to Howth Summit
32/b Eden Quay to Portmarnock
42 Lower Abbey Street to Sands Hotel (Portmarnock) / Coast Road (Malahide)
130 Lower Abbey Street to Castle Avenue
The following routes currently have no service
4/4a Harristown to Blackrock/Stradbrook
13/13a Merrion Square to Harristown
17a Finglas to Kilbarrack
27b Eden Quay to Harristown via Beaumont Hospital
27x Clare Hall to UCD Belfield
31b Eden Quay to Howth Summit
32a Eden Quay to Malahide
32x Malahide to UCD Belfield
33b Portrane/Donabate to Swords
40/a/b/c/d Finglas to City Centre
41x Swords to UCD Belfield
42a/b Lower Abbey Street to Blunden Drive / Beaumont Hospital (42a)
43 Lower Abbey Street to Swords Business Park
53 Eden Quay to East Wall Road
53a Eden Quay to North Wall (Alexandra Road)
83 Harristown to Kimmage
102 Sutton Station to Airport via Swords
103 Clontarf Dart Station to OMNI Shopping Centre
104 Clontarf Dart Station to Cappagh Hospital
128 Clongriffin to Rathmines (Palmerston Park)
140 Finglas to Leeson Street
142 Portmarnock to Rathmines (Palmerston Park)
237 Blanchardstown to Castleknock
238 Blanchardstown to Tyrellstown
239 Blanchardstown Shopping Centre to Liffey Valley Shopping Centre
270 Blanchardstown Shopping Centre to Dunboyne
The following routes have a curtailed peak time service
37 Hawkins Street to Carpenterstown
37x Carpenterstown to UCD Belfield
38/a Hawkins Street to Damastown
38b/c Hawkins Street to Tyrrelstown
39 Hawkins Street to Ongar
39x Ongar to UCD Belfield
41 Lower Abbey Street to Swords Manor
70/a Hawkins Street to Dunboyne
Its a mess. Of the buses operating a limited service today there is only one 42 bus out there next one is at nine. The 27s are finishing up in half an hour. And there are no clontarf road or howth road buses. Thankfully there is the DART.
Colm Moore
27-04-2009, 19:00
http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/News-Centre/Travel-News/Service-Disruption/
Service Disruption
Monday, April 27, 2009
Dublin Bus wishes to apologise to customers for the disruption to a number of its services. This disruption is due to unofficial Industrial action by drivers at Clontarf and Harristown depots following the introduction of service changes which were agreed and accepted following a Labour Court Recommendation.
Service Disruption update 18:45hrs
A limited service has been restored to the following routes
27 Talbot Street to Clare Hall
29a Eden Quay to Newgrove Cross
31 Eden Quay to Howth Summit
32/b Eden Quay to Portmarnock
42 Lower Abbey Street to Sands Hotel (Portmarnock) / Coast Road (Malahide)
130 Lower Abbey Street to Castle Avenue
The following routes currently have no service
4/4a Harristown to Blackrock/Stradbrook
13/13a Merrion Square to Harristown
17a Finglas to Kilbarrack
27b Eden Quay to Harristown via Beaumont Hospital
27x Clare Hall to UCD Belfield
31b Eden Quay to Howth Summit
32a Eden Quay to Malahide
32x Malahide to UCD Belfield
33b Portrane/Donabate to Swords
40/a/b/c/d Finglas to City Centre
41x Swords to UCD Belfield
42a/b Lower Abbey Street to Blunden Drive / Beaumont Hospital (42a)
43 Lower Abbey Street to Swords Business Park
53 Eden Quay to East Wall Road
53a Eden Quay to North Wall (Alexandra Road)
83 Harristown to Kimmage
102 Sutton Station to Airport via Swords
103 Clontarf Dart Station to OMNI Shopping Centre
104 Clontarf Dart Station to Cappagh Hospital
128 Clongriffin to Rathmines (Palmerston Park)
140 Finglas to Leeson Street
142 Portmarnock to Rathmines (Palmerston Park)
237 Blanchardstown to Castleknock
238 Blanchardstown to Tyrellstown
239 Blanchardstown Shopping Centre to Liffey Valley Shopping Centre
270 Blanchardstown Shopping Centre to Dunboyne
The following routes have a curtailed peak time service
37 Hawkins Street to Carpenterstown
37x Carpenterstown to UCD Belfield
38/a Hawkins Street to Damastown
38b/c Hawkins Street to Tyrrelstown
39 Hawkins Street to Ongar
39x Ongar to UCD Belfield
41 Lower Abbey Street to Swords Manor
70/a Hawkins Street to Dunboyne
That notice is not accurate because speaking to a clontarf inspector he was telling me the only bus routes operating out of clontarf are the 27 and 42 and the 27 will be winding up soon and possibly also the 42. I have to get the dart to donaghmede & walk
Also worth mentioning irish rail are still accepting dublin bus tickets on the routes affected
Thomas Ralph
27-04-2009, 19:47
What's the betting that this spreads to Conyngham Road, Donnybrook, and/or Phibsborough depots tomorrow? :(
roamling
28-04-2009, 07:12
The Irish Times online reports now that it has now spread to Conyngham Road and Summerhilll depots where limited services are operating.
Indeed as a result of summerhill joining the picket line means limited bus service north of malahide. Clontarf is all out meaning no services again on the whole northside DART catchment area again this morning. The 90, 92 and 151 have limited services now
roamling
28-04-2009, 07:35
Here the latest, LONG, update:
Source:
http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/News-Centre/Travel-News/Service-Disruption1/
Service Disruption update 08:20hrs
There are no services operating from Clontarf and Harristown depots. There are limited services operating from Conyngham Road and Summerhill depots. All other services are operating as normal.
The following routes have no service
4/4a Harristown to Blackrock/Stradbrook
13/13a Merrion Square to Harristown
17a Finglas to Kilbarrack
27 Talbot Street to Clare Hall
27b Eden Quay to Harristown via Beaumont Hospital
27x Clare Hall to UCD Belfield
29a Eden Quay to Newgrove Cross
31 Eden Quay to Howth Summit
31b Eden Quay to Howth Summit
32a Eden Quay to Malahide
32/b Eden Quay to Portmarnock
32x Malahide to UCD Belfield
33b Portrane/Donabate to Swords
40/a/b/c/d Finglas to City Centre
42 Lower Abbey Street to Sands Hotel (Portmarnock) / Coast Road (Malahide)
42a/b Lower Abbey Street to Blunden Drive / Beaumont Hospital (42a)
43 Lower Abbey Street to Swords Business Park
53 Eden Quay to East Wall Road
53a Eden Quay to North Wall (Alexandra Road)
83 Harristown to Kimmage
102 Sutton Station to Airport via Swords
103 Clontarf Dart Station to OMNI Shopping Centre
104 Clontarf Dart Station to Cappagh Hospital
128 Clongriffin to Rathmines (Palmerston Park)
130 Lower Abbey Street to Castle Avenue
140 Finglas to Leeson Street
142 Portmarnock to Rathmines (Palmerston Park)
237 Blanchardstown to Castleknock
238 Blanchardstown to Tyrellstown
239 Blanchardstown Shopping Centre to Liffey Valley Shopping Centre
270 Blanchardstown Shopping Centre to Dunboyne
The following routes have a limited service
16 Santry to Ballinteer (Kingston)
16a Dublin Airport to Lower Rathfarnham (Nutgrove Avenue)
20b Eden Quay to Beaumount (Ardlea Road)
33 Lower Abbey Street to Balbriggan
41 Lower Abbey Street to Swords Manor
51 Clondalkin (Neilstown) to City Centre
51b Aston Quay to Grange Castle
51c Aston Quay to Grange Castle
51d Clondalkin to Aston Quay
51x Dunawley to UCD Belfield
68 Aston Quay to Newcastle / Greenogue Business Park
69 Aston Quay to Rathcoole
76/a/b Ballyfermot / Blanchardstown to Balrothery / Tallaght/ Fettercairn
78a Aston Quay to Liffey Valley Centre
79/a Aston Quay to Ballyfermot (Spiddal Park) / Park West (79a)
90 Heuston Station to International Financial Services Centre
92 Heuston Station to Leeson Street (Wilton Terrace)
123 Marino to Walkinstown (Kilnamanagh Road)
151 Docklands Station to Adamstown
The following routes have a curtailed peak service
37 Hawkins Street to Carpenterstown
37x Carpenterstown to UCD Belfield
38/a Hawkins Street to Damastown
38b/c Hawkins Street to Tyrrelstown
39 Hawkins Street to Ongar
39x Ongar to UCD Belfield
41x Swords to UCD Belfield
70/a Hawkins Street to Dunboyne
Does anyone know what the Dart is like this morning? A friend of mine has been waiting at Donneycarney for an hour and only one (full) bus has passed.
Mark Gleeson
28-04-2009, 08:32
Does anyone know what the Dart is like this morning? A friend of mine has been waiting at Donneycarney for an hour and only one (full) bus has passed.
Its running and looks to be on time
I doubt they sent out everything as 8 coaches this morning
Any idea how busy the DART is ? Phibsboro garage looks to have been hit drivers are saying. I am on a bus there is very little out there. The maynooth line if correct could be next to be hit.
Mark Hennessy
28-04-2009, 09:04
Station displays in Blackrock yesterday mentioned that DB tickets were being honoured, though you had to be on the platform through the gates to find that out.
I did not hear/see it mentioned anywhere else.
Latest from RTE
http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0428/dublinbus.html
Dublin Bus dispute enters third day
Tuesday, 28 April 2009 10:08
The unofficial strike at Dublin Bus has spread to four more garages.
The Conyngham Road, Broadstone, Phibsboro and Summerhill depots are now also affected.
Only Ringsend and Donnybrook garages are providing a full service.
No service: 4/4a, 13/13a, 17a, 27, 27b, 27x, 29a, 31, 31b, 32a, 32/b, 32x, 33b, 40/a/b/c/d, 42, 42a/b, 43, 53, 53a, 83, 102, 103, 104, 130, 140, 142, 237, 238, 239, 270.
Limited service: 16, 20, 33, 51, 61, 76, 79, 123, 124, 747, 748, 41, 78, 90, 151.
Curtailed peak service: 37, 37x, 38/a, 38b/c, 39, 39x, 41, 41x, 70/a.
Dublin Bus said drivers are being intimidated by the strikers and that windows of buses have been broken at Phibsboro depot.
Passengers have been advised to contact the company, or check its website for updates, as disruption to services looks set to continue for a third day.
Talks aimed at resolving the unofficial industrial action at the company failed yesterday afternoon.
The dispute began on Sunday after a driver at the Harristown depot was suspended when he refused to work a new schedule.
Dublin Bus said yesterday's the action disrupted up to 150,000 passengers.
The main areas affected by the disruption are Ballymun, Finglas, Coolock, Malahide, Howth, Portmarnock, Donaghmede, Dollymount and Fairview.
Thomas Ralph
28-04-2009, 09:35
Does anyone know what the Dart is like this morning? A friend of mine has been waiting at Donneycarney for an hour and only one (full) bus has passed.
Running normally, and (on the southside at least) no busier than usual.
Thomas Ralph
28-04-2009, 09:37
Not wanting to tempt fate, but the whole transport network is going to go up s*** creek if a bridge gets hit or anything.
Not wanting to tempt fate, but the whole transport network is going to go up s*** creek if a bridge gets hit or anything.
Im confused. I though we were already up **** Creek. In fact I didnt think we had ever been out of **** Creek. How much further up the creek is ****? We must be there by now!
Thomas Ralph
28-04-2009, 10:11
http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/News-Centre/Travel-News/Service-Disruption1/ suggests that only Harristown depot is still out. Still no service on 4/A, 13/A, 17A, 27B, 33B, 40/A/B/C/D, 83, 102, 128, 140, 142, 237, 238, 239, and 270, and curtailed peak service on 27X, 37/X, 38/A/B/C, 39/X, 41/X, and 70/A.
http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/News-Centre/Travel-News/Service-Disruption1/ suggests that only Harristown depot is still out. Still no service on 4/A, 13/A, 17A, 27B, 33B, 40/A/B/C/D, 83, 102, 128, 140, 142, 237, 238, 239, and 270, and curtailed peak service on 27X, 37/X, 38/A/B/C, 39/X, 41/X, and 70/A.
AA roadwatch are saying that normal service has resumed at Conyingham Rd and Phibs and drivers have started returning to work in Clontarf. They said the same yesterday (about Clontarf) so pinches of salt all round.
Thomas Ralph
28-04-2009, 10:38
That link has dropped now :rolleyes:
Thomas Ralph
28-04-2009, 10:55
Make that the entire Dublin Bus website has dropped.
Thomas Ralph
28-04-2009, 13:55
Back up but quite slow. No change from the above list of buses.
Station displays in Blackrock yesterday mentioned that DB tickets were being honoured, though you had to be on the platform through the gates to find that out.
I did not hear/see it mentioned anywhere else.
I saw it again on the small TVs in Pearse yesterday afternoon, and again at Killester this morning, but nowhere that would be of use to anyone who wasn't already going for the DART.
Don't know if there was some kind of DART problem yesterday, but things were pretty crushed about 18:00 southbound from Pearse. Overherd one person saying there had been a problem with an earlier train, don't know if that was true or if it was fallout from the buses.
Make that the entire Dublin Bus website has dropped.
its constantly like that since they upgraded the website recently.
Thomas Ralph
28-04-2009, 15:20
Drivers have returned to work according to http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/News-Centre/Travel-News/Service-Disruption1/
some good news for passengers for a change!
Colm Moore
28-04-2009, 15:42
Avoid Dublin City Centre unless on a bike or train.
Colm Moore
06-05-2009, 20:41
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/0506/1224245994316.htmlBus Éireann plan to reduce bus numbers
Bus Éireann is expected to set out plans for cutbacks in bus numbers, possible job losses and the introduction of work practice changes at meetings with unions today, writes Martin Wall, Industry Correspondent
The company has said it is facing potential losses of up to €30 million this year. It is expected to say it will be reducing 150 vehicles from its fleet.
Earlier this year the company indicated it was planning to introduce 322 redundancies, including those of 110 drivers, as part of its cost-saving proposals.
The company is also expected to propose changes in work practices and conditions for remaining staff.
Members of the National Bus and Rail Union at the company voted for industrial action against the cutbacks in February.
Last month bus services in Dublin were affected by an unofficial strike involving drivers at Dublin Bus who were protesting at changes introduced as part of its cost-saving programme.
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