Lusk station

[Rashers]

What's the story with all the cars parked in the field East of the Rush and Lusk station?

[Colm Donoghue]

They're disabled drivers and cant park in the lusk carpark cos ie have thoughtfully blocked the 3 spaces there?

[Rashers]

Just wondering if it just disabled drviers, as the field seems to be filling up daily. Also looks a bit muddier!

[Mark Gleeson]

Must take a trip out to see this

[Colm Donoghue]

Ah no, I was being my usual facetious self. There is some "communications" company putting in a trench in the Lusk carpark but they've left fencing and equipment blocking the disabled car spaces.

I don't know if the field's offically a carpark (rented by ie) or a gray area or squatting or what.
I do know the 3 hard carparks there were full this morning at 7:09.

If you've not been there before Mark, the "new" carpark on the Lusk side was opened about a year ago. It's the one with the cobblelock.

The Lusk area plan has a re-zoning application in to build a new station south of the existing station and obviously loadsa houses and leisure facilities and shops yada yada yada.... and re-route the station road through these new houses.


If ya've time (and it's dry), take a trip along the "footpaths" from the station to both town's served by this station.

and if ya're brave, walk from one platform to t'other via the road bridge as one would if one was mobility impaired....

Development levies well spent here....

[Terrontress]

Think that same company is in Donabate.

They show up sporadically and dig long, narrow trenches and put tape along the trench to stop people parking there.

Occasionally some commuters make it there before the builders and they tie the red and white tape onto each mirror of the car.

[Mark Gleeson]

Car parking Irish Rail Style

436

Be thankful for that nice clean waiting room

[Bluetonic]

The Lusk area plan has a re-zoning application in to build a new station south of the existing station and obviously loadsa houses and leisure facilities and shops yada yada yada.... and re-route the station road through these new houses.


Lots of info here

http://www.fingalcoco.ie/YourLocalCouncil/Services/Planning/PlanningItemsOnDisplay/LuskProposedLAP/

[Colm Donoghue]

The field beside the station is going to be closed soon,
The farmer needs to plant crops there and can no longer allow cars to park there.
The farmer had let cars park there for free but can't any more.
There's a new pair of gates up this morning.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055085746

[Rashers]

Tom Morrisey, local PD candidate for North Dublin, is providing a free morning and evening shuttle bus between Rush and Lusk, calling@ Rush and Lusk train station, up to the election day. He advises it is terrible that DB refuse to provide a link.
What amazes me is that in all the years the PD's have been in power, they never thought to push for such a service, despite massive population increases in both towns. But am I been too critical?
The Greens provided a similar shuttle bus for 1 day in the last few weeks.
He also goes on about the way DB have not applied to run a single bus through the Dublin Port Tunnel - especially express buses from the likes of Donabate, Rush, Lusk, Skerries or Balbriggan. Such services might relieve some of the present overcrowding problems. However, again why only complain now? They should have pushed for more while in power.
Any thoughts?

[Mark Gleeson]

Tom is using cash from his election budget to pay for it about €2k is the bottom line

If I remember correctly there is already a bus stop at the station road entrance.

One of the big complaints concerning the DART in the mid 1980's was expected passenger numbers where not achieved (yes it was below target) was attributed to Dublin Bus not providing a decent feeder bus service.

A proper local bus service is key and it is in the election demands we have

[markpb]

He also goes on about the way DB have not applied to run a single bus through the Dublin Port Tunnel - especially express buses from the likes of Donabate, Rush, Lusk, Skerries or Balbriggan. Such services might relieve some of the present overcrowding problems.

The 748 and 41X definitely go through the port tunnel, I'd imagine the 33X will follow suit at some stage. Pulling buses like the 41 and 33 away from the Swords road would reduce the capacity along that road as well as forcing people who work between north county Dublin and the city centre to travel all the way in and back out.

However, again why only complain now? They should have pushed for more while in power.

This is why I find it so hard to believe an of the PD/FF promises about transport. They had years to do even simple things like feeder buses and never bothered. Why start now?

[Colm Donoghue]

Tom Morrissey, had a shuttle minibus alright. It blocked the exit from the Lusk side car park on Monday both times I was using it on Monday.
The Pd's have been in govt since 99, yet only now ten days before the general election has this happened. I sincerely hope nobody thinks it's anything other than a stunt.

There's DB bus stops close to the station entrances ( ~150m) on the Lusk side and right at the Rush side entrance. DB services in the mornings from Rush seem fine to bring people to the station and probably from Lusk too. It's the evening time when (like everywhere) the bus network gets screwed up.

A Local bus service (33T (for Train, geddit)) running a dogbone shape service between Rush and Lusk should be a goer. Combined population is over 14000.

Rush is fairly sprawling low density - loads of houses have large ~half acre gardens while others have vegetable plots or glasshouses instead ( still ~half acres). Most of the new housing is in the North and extreme East of the town but I'm not sure how to do a loop for a bus route to maximize catchment here.

In Lusk the bus route should go through the three new estates, Lusk Village estate (not sure how feasible or welcome it would be - can use bypass) down main st and Dublin road and through Chapel farm to Dun Emer along the distributer road and loop back.


Whoever runs the bus, It shouldn't cost any more than the existing bus/rail ticket I have. i.e. if Not Dublin bus run the service, a short hop bus/rail ticket should still cover the service.

[Thomas J Stamp]

Tom Morrissey:


ha ha ha.... what the hell are you thinking!!!!!!!


I look forward to waiting in the rain next Friday waiting on his bus.

Talk about hostage to fortune.

Does Tom actually know what parties have been in government for the past 10 years???

[Colm Donoghue]

I'd tell ya what I was thinking but you reminded me of the right to a good name on another thread....

Rashers,
I presume the pd's didn't care about people without cars
"A man riding a bus (to work) at age 26 may count himself a failure"?
Until the farmer providing a free carpark closed it as the election campaign got underway.

[hhf8]

Tom Morrisey, local PD candidate for North Dublin, is providing a free morning and evening shuttle bus between Rush and Lusk, calling@ Rush and Lusk train station, up to the election day. He advises it is terrible that DB refuse to provide a link.
What amazes me is that in all the years the PD's have been in power, they never thought to push for such a service, despite massive population increases in both towns. But am I been too critical?
The Greens provided a similar shuttle bus for 1 day in the last few weeks.
He also goes on about the way DB have not applied to run a single bus through the Dublin Port Tunnel - especially express buses from the likes of Donabate, Rush, Lusk, Skerries or Balbriggan. Such services might relieve some of the present overcrowding problems. However, again why only complain now? They should have pushed for more while in power.
Any thoughts?

There is a shuttle bus in balbriggan provided by bus eireann which goes around the town and ends up out side the station.So may it would have to be up to BE to supply the service

[Prof_Vanderjuice]

There is a shuttle bus provided by bus eireann which goes around the town and ends up out side the station.So may it would have to be up to BE to supply the service

If this is the Balbriggan one (as I presume), I believe a developer is paying towards it too.

[Colm Moore]

Tom Morrisey, local PD candidate for North Dublin, is providing a free morning and evening shuttle bus between Rush and Lusk, calling@ Rush and Lusk train station, up to the election day. He advises it is terrible that DB refuse to provide a link.Surely one of the PDs freinds in a super-efficient private company should do it? :rolleyes:

[dowlingm]

He advises it is terrible that DB refuse to provide a link.

That's why DB should be providers of buses, not deciders of routes and Dublin Transit Authority or whichever body would cover these stations should contract in another company if DB don't think they can make it work. Blaming DB is rubbish, they are hostages to the politicians and unions.

How about a rule - no feeder, no suburban rail?

[Colm Donoghue]

There was a sign up in the station this morning about a bike shed opening on 21st May at the station.
Didn't get to read all the message.

[Colm Donoghue]

dowlingm,
DB are in competition with IE though....


This station is peculiar in that it's between two towns, the footpath is about a foot wide, the kerb is about an inch high due to trucks overrunning it and it's incredibly dangerous for pedestrians in darkness to get to.

Plus you have the muppets in the so called Fingal County Council, who can talk the talk about proper planning but can't crawl the crawl, never mind walk the walk, regarding proper planning.

[Mark Gleeson]

Iarnrod Eireann run trains not buses, in a sane world Dublin Bus would run buses to every station.

Of course this is Dublin so sanity goes out the window. Dublin Bus of course refused to implement proper feeder buses for DART and have used the licensing cover up for the Luas.

[Colm Donoghue]

There's a thread about the DOT not letting DB pick up passengers west of the M1 on the brand spanking(is there an election ?) new route 142

SNCF do both though. They're pretty good at it too.

[markpb]

Dublin Bus [...] have used the licensing cover up for the Luas.

What do you mean?

[andyroo]

I have a bit of a question about rush & lusk station. seems to be something of a fingal thing in general actually...

why is there no pedestrian way between the station and the village of rush?

maybe there is now? there certainly wasn't a couple of years ago when I was last there... we were thinking possibly of moving to the area as it might be a bit cheaper than where we are now. but we gave up trying to walk on the narrow shoulder of the very busy road and ended up not looking round rush at all. we've kind of written it off in fact, just because the access from the station is (was) so bad if you don't drive.

it'd be a bit of a hike to do every day sure, but it'd be nice to know you could do it if you wanted to.

in a more general vein, doesn't anyone walk anywhere in fingal? there seems to be a bit of a problem with pedestrian access all round. as another for instance, I can't believe there still isn't a proper sidewalk along the swords-malahide road, despite the massive development along it in the last five years, since I arrived in the area.

[Mark Gleeson]

Every new route, route change must be ok'ed by the DoT

Now its true the DoT have been less than quick to process these you get the feeling following the Luas situation (need I say 17,75,114 again) that Dublin Bus just couldn't be arsed.

[Colm Donoghue]

Andy
There has been roadworks between Lusk and the station for the last 3 months or so. firstly both sides of the road were dug up to install fibre for a MAN
which couldn't both be put in the same hole, then the footpath is being improved from Lusk to the station. It's about half done at the minute. We'll see on Friday if it's still being done.....

I don't know too much about the Rush side, some few yards were done from the station towards Rush ( ~100 yards) last year but I dunno how much else has been done.

I can give you a pretty good example of the incompetence regarding non provision of footpaths.

Read what the Manager of Fingal co.co said here in December 2006
http://www.fingalcoco.ie/minutes/2006/BSB/1219/BSB20060410.htm

And here in Janurary 2007
http://www.fingalcoco.ie/minutes/2007/BSA/0208/BSA20070059.htm
Read section C

Now this planning permission was not granted in the few months of this last winter or Spring....

[andyroo]

thanks colm

so... does that mean that a developer not only isn't obliged to provide pedestrian access, but actually has to seek permission from the council if he wants to build it?

[Colm Donoghue]

Nope, I think it means that the manger was confused as to the conditions of the planning permission and accidentally misinformed the elected representatives.

Getting back to a railway related topic,
Fingal co. co have been knocking around with the idea of a pedestrian & bike track from Malahide to Donabate beside the railway across the estuary viaduct.
This is progressing very slowly though, at present. It was first mentioned about 2 years ago.
I'd like to see a similar bike/pedestrian path across Rogerstown to Donabate but can't see that happening.