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Donal Quinn
08-12-2006, 11:22
so mark has admitted on another thread that he has no drivers license
i don't either but i thought it was just me!
anyone else?

Mark Gleeson
08-12-2006, 11:26
so mark has admitted on another thread that he has no drivers license
i don't either but i thought it was just me!
anyone else?
Jezz the stigma about no drivers licence..........

There is a certain senior manager in IE who doesn't have one either, you know who you are

Brian Condron
08-12-2006, 11:36
I don't have one either, my second provisional expired last March and I have still to apply for the third.

The irony is that I work as a road design engineer...

Who needs one anyway, the Green Line is my oyster!

2Funki4Wheelz
08-12-2006, 12:03
I don't and never did. Cars make people very lazy driving 5 minute journeys instead of a 10 minute walk.

And not having one makes for a nice quiet relaxing Christmas, don't have to go driving around visiting people :D

PaulM
08-12-2006, 12:22
I don't drive at all. I live in Temple bar so no real need.

Mark Hennessy
08-12-2006, 12:45
I have no idea how to drive.
The stigma I get at home and from the in-laws is unbelievable, "26 and cant drive!"
However most of my mates dont drive either. I guess when I go trying to get a job in the new year I may have to learn, if I dont move out foreign.

ccos
08-12-2006, 12:50
I don't have one either.
So journey times aren't so important as frequency.

PaulM
08-12-2006, 13:31
I have no idea how to drive.
The stigma I get at home and from the in-laws is unbelievable, "26 and cant drive!"
However most of my mates dont drive either. I guess when I go trying to get a job in the new year I may have to learn, if I dont move out foreign.

I get the stick thing too.

I honestly think its an age thing. Most of my friends over 30 do. Very few my age (25) do and a couple have started to think about it, myself included.

colmoc
08-12-2006, 13:35
Have a licence but dont drive dont have a car .
Its handy to have if you go for a job else changing job may require moving house

Thomas J Stamp
08-12-2006, 13:38
I would have thought that insurance is a problem with you lot, being as it were, under 30 and male (apart from 2funki)? In most cases the car is cheaper to buy then the insurance!!

I dont have a driving licence either.

2Funki4Wheelz
08-12-2006, 14:31
I would have thought that insurance is a problem with you lot, being as it were, under 30 and male (apart from 2funki)? In most cases the car is cheaper to buy then the insurance!!


Still under 30 though :D

I think having a car parked in my driveway for 5 out of 7 days is a waste, you still pay the same tax/insurance/NCT charges like people who regularly use theirs.

Brian Condron
08-12-2006, 15:04
Who'd have thunk it? A large number of people who support an organisation which is campaigning for better public transport don't drive. What are the odds :D

Mark Hennessy
08-12-2006, 15:07
Who'd have thunk it? A large number of people who support an organisation which is campaigning for better public transport don't drive. What are the odds :D

Does the opposite of this mean, that if we drive we wouldnt give a toss about public transport? :confused:

Brian Condron
08-12-2006, 15:08
Does the opposite of this mean, that if we drive we wouldnt give a toss about public transport? :confused:

That's the general impression I get in this country.

sandraoh
08-12-2006, 16:08
I quit my job in Dublin because of the lack of a late train service to Portlaoise. I will have to drive to my new job in Birr because there is no public transport option. I have a provisional licence and have been waiting for my test for 6 months and have just found out the waiting list have gone up by another month.

Thomas J Stamp
08-12-2006, 16:49
I quit my job in Dublin because of the lack of a late train service to Portlaoise. I will have to drive to my new job in Birr because there is no public transport option. I have a provisional licence and have been waiting for my test for 6 months and have just found out the waiting list have gone up by another month.

That is an absolute disgrace. To all those idiots who still think Irish Rail provide anything like a proper service - even as close in as Portlaoise to Dublin - read that post again. Disgraceful.

Mark Gleeson
08-12-2006, 16:53
Well the usual IE game of its a good idea and we wiill think about it bascially f*** off this is our trainset don't tell us how to run it

Now where do I remember that same sentiment being expressed..........

sandraoh
08-12-2006, 16:58
Last year at a meeting with Myles I was promised a service after 9pm to portlaoise in this new timetable. This year in the same meeting I was told 2009 which probably means January 2010. Up until recently I had to go to my parents house on an 11 o'clock bus for 1 week out of every 3 because I needed to work until half nine. We have since bought a car and my husband collects me from Kildare at the moment. Once I got told 2009 I had my mind made up for me. I'll be "meeting the manager" next week and telling them the same thing. Also my employer is going to write a complaint to Irish Rail about the service.

Mark Gleeson
08-12-2006, 17:03
We where expecting a 22:00 to Cork in 2007 but it didn't happen

Dundalk at 50 miles last train is 22:22 and has been for years

Irish Rail persits in sending empty trains around the place, 22:45 to Kildare runs empty back to Inchicore, shortly after 5 a empty train leaves Dublin for Portlaois

2Funki4Wheelz
08-12-2006, 17:10
Last year at a meeting with Myles I was promised a service after 9pm to portlaoise in this new timetable. This year in the same meeting I was told 2009 which probably means January 2010. Up until recently I had to go to my parents house on an 11 o'clock bus for 1 week out of every 3 because I needed to work until half nine. We have since bought a car and my husband collects me from Kildare at the moment. Once I got told 2009 I had my mind made up for me. I'll be "meeting the manager" next week and telling them the same thing. Also my employer is going to write a complaint to Irish Rail about the service.

It is shocking, same for me in Portarlington, I had to leave a position where there was often overtime so the last train @ 9pm wasn't suitable, and for us there's not even a bus alternative and we've no car in our house.

At our meeting it was said there wouldn't really be scope for later trains until all the new rolling stock had arrived = 12th of Never.

Mark Gleeson
08-12-2006, 17:14
Fact is the 22:45 could run the whole way to Cork its not needed again until 5:30 am

The lack of rolling stock was never a excuse

Then of course why the 22:45 can't run from Pearse, after all by the admissiion of Steve and Myles the railcars swap at night to go to Drogheda so again no reason why not

Now if I had €50,000 could charter a train every night for a month and charge you nothing

PaulM
08-12-2006, 19:28
Now if I had €50,000 could charter a train every night for a month and charge you nothing

Never investing with you! :D

comcor
11-12-2006, 13:59
I've had a driving licence for over 10 years, but I've never owned a car.

However, I do hire them on occasions when I need them. That amounted to 10 days in total at a cost of around E350, which is less than the insurance I'd pay on a car, never mind the maintenance, tax and derpreciation.

Derek Wheeler
11-12-2006, 23:37
Shock announcement!:eek:

P11 PR rep drives, drives and drives some more. In fact he is so car dependent its obscene. He lives in a two car household in a town that is totally car dependent. The local rail service is also car dependent which is why the car park is bursting at the seams.

I applaud those who can do without a car and encourage you to do your best to model your life in such a fashion that never requires one. A good friend of mine in his 40s never had a car and has a better quality of life than I have. Ireland doesn't facilitate this kind of lifestyle to the majority, so if you can make it work, then grab it with both hands.

Apart from having an interest in railways, the main reason I helped set up P11was because I knew from driving around this country how out of touch both Government and IE were at utilising the railway to make thousands of lives easier.

TomB
14-12-2006, 18:06
Being from the country I passed my test as soon as I could at 18.

I sold my first car when I moved to Africa, and didn't bother with one when I came back as I've always lived within 30 minutes walk of the centre of Dublin.

Having said all that, me and the wife (who also walks to work) bought a car early this year and it's brilliant. Part of it is a leisure thing, as I've always had a thing for classic minis, and after selling my first one I was heartbroken. The new mini is one of the later old-style ones and is absolutely fantastic (picture here (http://thomas.bibby.ie/tb_and_mini_06.jpg)!).

I've said before that I drive down to Limerick to visit the family now rather than get the train, and we'd seriously consider driving down to Cork to see the wife's family once they finish the N/M8. Fact is that unless you're trying to leave Dublin on Friday evening, it's quicker to take the train to Limerick now, which is part of the reason I get all touchy about the Limerick train stopping six times.

James Shields
18-12-2006, 00:53
I have a driving license and a car, but I would absolutely hate to have to drive it to work. I much prefer to take the train when I can, but unfortunately there are a lot of journeys that just can't be made without a car.

My car does sit outside my house for most of the week.

Maybe one day...

Colm Moore
22-12-2006, 06:04
The only time I ever need a car (other than taxis home) is when I'm doing my recycling. Ironic.

bigjim
22-12-2006, 17:37
Doing my test in January, pondering buying a car because I'm all over the place with college on placements.

Campaign for Luas from my house to multiple locations of my chosing? Any takers?

sean
22-12-2006, 17:42
how long were you waiting for your driving test >_<

bigjim
22-12-2006, 17:45
I applied last January, but got a letter from a private company in October (SGS) saying I could do it anytime in the following 6 weeks. I've been busy studying for part of my finals the last few months so decided to leave it till now.

EDIT - I'm in south Dublin

John J
04-02-2007, 18:05
I have a second provisional... don't know if that counts!
Need to get it sorted asap as the days of driving around on L's seem to be coming to an end.

I failed my last test for:
- not pulling out of a junction in front of a car that was indicating into the junction
- not moving beyond the white line at a green traffic light when the junction was blocked and a car was already at the centre of the junction waiting to turn right.

Despite committing the above life-threatening errors I'm still on the road, but have 2 applicaitons in for the test; a normal one applied for in Aug 2006 and a cancellation applied for in late Dec 2006.
I just hope I won't get Robocop himself for my next test!