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Just thought it might be an idea for people to put up what they would like to see in the new timetable without any technical aspects or anything that would need a miracle to do!
There are a couple of things I would like to see on the Maynooth/longford line:
-7 day clockface timetable: I want to be able to know the timetable without having to refer to a timetable.
-Later train: would like to see the 23:10hrs pushed back to 23:30hrs
-21:55hrs pearse maynooth, i have missed this train a couple of times if it had let pearse at ten i would have made it!
-later sunday service 2230 from pearse should be the last on a sunday
-should be a 21:00hrs pearse mullingar service
anything else?
Simple things:
(1) As much clockface as possible
(2) Cut the padding
(3) Consistency, not 3 trains within an hour and then a 3 hour break.
What I do would like for the Rosslare line is clockface something that I can remember in pattern in both directions.
-A later train home from Connolly leaving at 19.30 to Rosslare serving Tara St,Pearse,Dun Laoghaire even Kilcoole then going as fast as the tracks will glide the train to the following stations until it reaches Rosslare.
-New trains, IE for example putting a 4coach 29k on the new proposed 13.30 find another 22k train;)
-Faster train times
-Try to give just that much top priority between Bray & Connolly
Do these simple things and you will have at least one passenger happy....
What I do would like for the Rosslare line is clockface something that I can remember in pattern in both directions.
-A later train home from Connolly leaving at 19.30 to Rosslare serving Tara St,Pearse,Dun Laoghaire even Kilcoole then going as fast as the tracks will glide the train to the following stations until it reaches Rosslare.
-New trains, IE for example putting a 4coach 29k on the new proposed 13.30 find another 22k train;)
-Faster train times
-Try to give just that much top priority between Bray & Connolly
Do these simple things and you will have at least one passenger happy....
When you say 13.30 keith do you mean the new service do you mean the train to arklow? I presume that will be a six coach 28k because it will be running back to maynooth.
DSimple things:
(1) As much clockface as possible
(2) Cut the padding
(3) Consistency, not 3 trains within an hour and then a 3 hour break.
Agreed, example would be longford
With 17:05 and 17:15 then 18:05 and 18:18. Speead them out!
Agreed
When you say 13.30 keith do you mean the new service do you mean the train to arklow? I presume that will be a six coach 28k because it will be running back to maynooth.
One other example for gorey would be connection with the other lines especially on a sunday!
Two things that sping to mind:
- a better service than every 2 hours on a sunday during the day
-the 22:30ish should run on a saturday night
When you say 13.30 keith do you mean the new service do you mean the train to arklow? I presume that will be a six coach 28k because it will be running back to maynooth.
I mean the proposed 13.30 from Connolly to Rosslare. I think you meant the proposed 12.05 to Arklow that will be a 6car 28k..:) :)
If every train was an 8-car set between 4pm and 7pm(I realise this is entirely impossible), I'd be very happy.
Other than that, just consistency, so there are no more huge gaps and short bursts.
weehamster
16-08-2009, 20:35
I just simply wish for new train drivers to be employed. :rolleyes:
roamling
17-08-2009, 13:08
I wish for a 8 car train for the 6.30 am service from Drogheda (terminating in Connolly or Pearse instead Rosslare). Or at least a 6 car train EVERY day if it still goes all the way to Rosslare.
Then I could sit down, relax and stop whining about it.
I wish for a 8 car train for the 6.30 am service from Drogheda (terminating in Connolly or Pearse instead Rosslare). Or at least a 6 car train EVERY day if it still goes all the way to Rosslare.
Then I could sit down, relax and stop whining about it.
If that Rosslare/gorey timetable is correct the 06:30am (or any other morning drogheda train for that matter) will not be going to Rosslare so you might be in luck!
I know there's no hope of this but a train from Newbridge into Dublin between 1947 and 2200 would be nice.
Mark Gleeson
17-08-2009, 15:57
I know there's no hope of this but a train from Newbridge into Dublin between 1947 and 2200 would be nice.
That might be happening, there is a shift around on evening services after 7pm. There is an extra late evening Portlaois Dublin service but its after 10pm
I know there's no hope of this but a train from Newbridge into Dublin between 1947 and 2200 would be nice.
Thats an extraordinary gap in the evening especially considering its a major commuter and intercity station on the heuston side. Is hazelhatch and sallins the same?
I often wondered about this and especially now that IE have a lot of MK3 in "storage", could they not run 1 or 2 (if not 3) full 8 car MK3 (without dining car) morning/evening peak trains from Dundalk/Drogheda, say 05:30*, 06:00*, serving only Dundalk, Drogheda & Connolly Platform 4. Are there many services terminating in platform 4 during the morning? A quick shunt of the carriages after the trailing commuter service could free up platform 4 for the next MK3 peak service.
Use the 29000's to serve the intermediate stations to Malahide.
Obviously path issues arise here, but with a little timetable imagination one of these services could be slotted in before the departure of a commuter train from Dundalk/Drogheda.
It would get commuters with longer distances into/out of the city fast. Next Commuter service could handle intermediate stations.
Just took a look @ a journey planner for Drogheda - Dublin today... it would badly need to be tidied up! I work in IT (software development) and I use from time to time, a random number generator... the journey planner looks like it uses that too! :) ...for its timings & departure times.
For me, what I would like to see:
A 06:15 departure from Midleton
A 23:30 service to Midleton
14:30 Cork - Dublin calling additionally at Limerick Junction to avail of the connection to Rosslare (removing the 1hr wait that there currently is out of the 13:30 from Cork)
Have some trains from Cork call at Portarlington giving us connections to the West of Ireland
IE to advertise their timetables and promote lines
Get rid of the stupid padding that exists in the timetables (40mins from Connolly - Bray is madness!!!)
Reduce the transfer time @ Mallow for connections to/from Tralee for both Cork passengers and passengers that arrive on trains originating in Dublin
* only example times as I do not know what the commuter flows are like around Dub during peak times. However, with reference to the current timetable, the Dundalk departures of 05:30, 06:00 to not interfere with current Commuter departures from Drogheda: 06:04, 06:34. Problems might arise @ Howth Junction.
PS: I'm not that mad :D
roamling
17-08-2009, 18:15
If that Rosslare/gorey timetable is correct the 06:30am (or any other morning drogheda train for that matter) will not be going to Rosslare so you might be in luck!
:D open the champaign bottles
sublimity
17-08-2009, 22:53
What I do would like for the Rosslare line is clockface something that I can remember in pattern in both directions.
-A later train home from Connolly leaving at 19.30 to Rosslare serving Tara St,Pearse,Dun Laoghaire even Kilcoole then going as fast as the tracks will glide the train to the following stations until it reaches Rosslare.
-New trains, IE for example putting a 4coach 29k on the new proposed 13.30 find another 22k train;)
-Faster train times
-Try to give just that much top priority between Bray & Connolly
Do these simple things and you will have at least one passenger happy....
Agreed. New trains to take over completely from September 27th.
We will also need 6 coach 22k very soon. 2800/29000 trains to be a thing of the past on the rosslare line, with only the odd one for Gorey services being acceptable.
Agreed. New trains to take over completely from September 27th. We will also need 6 coach 22k very soon. 2800/29000 trains to be a thing of the past on the rosslare line, with only the odd one for Gorey services being acceptable.
We will also need 6 coach 22k very soon
Agreed;) , The 13.05 service seems to be full every Tuesday - Hopefully people will more and more use the new trains making IE use 3x2, 22k car sets:D :D :D ... Take the smartness out of the company....
How many bets are on the 27th that the news trains may not operate on all services and not just the odd one:)
How many bets are on the 27th that the news trains may not operate on all services and not just the odd one:)
Highly unlikely! Unless IE feel they will be able to cope with 3-coach 22ks on all services which i doubt, one of the evening peaks will be 6-coach 2800
Based on the "reported" new timetable the 16:30hrs (from maynooth) will be six-coach 2800 with the 17:30hrs and 18:30hrs being 3-coach 22k! that cant be right!
Untill SDO is sorted (not for a good while- still out to tender?) six-coach 22ks cant operate on the rosslare line!
Thomas Ralph
18-08-2009, 08:43
Agreed. New trains to take over completely from September 27th.
We will also need 6 coach 22k very soon. 2800/29000 trains to be a thing of the past on the rosslare line, with only the odd one for Gorey services being acceptable.
6-coach 22K is still not going to happen on the Rosslare line until the selective door opening issues are resolved. A 6-coach 22K is longer than the platforms at Rathdrum and Enniscorthy, and possibly Arklow as well.
Thomas Ralph
18-08-2009, 08:43
And then I read ThomasJ's post. Great Thomases think alike, eh? :D
And then I read ThomasJ's post. Great Thomases think alike, eh? :D
Absoluetly, and there seems to be quiet a few around here! :D
Thats an extraordinary gap in the evening especially considering its a major commuter and intercity station on the heuston side. Is hazelhatch and sallins the same?
Yes, it's the same for all stations between Newbridge and Dublin.
Ironically, there are two trains from Kildare to Dublin in that time period, 20:11 and 20:40.
Untill SDO is sorted (not for a good while- still out to tender?) six-coach 22ks cant operate on the rosslare line!
I am on a 22k now that has selective door opening.
Mark Gleeson
19-08-2009, 08:45
What the door is broken. SDO was clearly mentioned as part of the order spec.
For the Rosslare line, all that is needed is to lock out the very rear door, which is a fairly standard feature on many trains without SDO
It should be quickly be coming apparent that a 4 car 22k would have been a better option in many places
What the door is broken. SDO was clearly mentioned as part of the order spec.
Not broken, both doors into the last carraige were turned off. Also the automatic doors at either end of the carriage wouldn't open. I suspect they may be carrying a certain class of passenger in that carriage (people are inside it).
Well maybe it has been sorted, and just been tested.
Interesting.... 5 carriage 22ks!
sublimity
19-08-2009, 10:29
That's great news. Irish Rail might just have surprised us (in a positive way for once)
We might just have 6 coach 22k on the busier Rosslare services from this September. Could do with them on the proposed 13.30 17.30 and 18.30 services ex Connolly:D
Not broken, both doors into the last carraige were turned off. Also the automatic doors at either end of the carriage wouldn't open. I suspect they may be carrying a certain class of passenger in that carriage (people are inside it).
I saw this happen a few months ago on a 29000 on a service to Maynooth(think it was the 23.10 ex Pearse), though there were no people in the carriage. I put it down to there being "a mess" made by passengers on the inbound service(was a Friday night).
Not broken, both doors into the last carraige were turned off. Also the automatic doors at either end of the carriage wouldn't open. I suspect they may be carrying a certain class of passenger in that carriage (people are inside it).
Could it just be the case that SDOs might work on the 1*6 22ks but not the 2*3s?
Could it just be the case that SDOs might work on the 1*6 22ks but not the 2*3s?
Could possibly be, they (well only certain ticket collectors) use the SDO on the 18.25 Heuston-Waterford to keep people from hopping onto the "Premier" carraige when it is loading at Heuston. Anyone who has a first class ticket has to go to the end of the carraige and then walk back.
Back to the wish list! An additonal service on the Heuston-Carlow-Waterford line between the 18.25 and the 20.05 railcar. Someting just after 19.00 would be great for commuters.
Also, move the 06.10 Waterford-Heuston back 10 mins or so so that everyone can actually make it to work by 9am when it gets to Dublin!
Actually, just re-write the whole bloody timetable so that it works better!
Personally, a 20:30 Cork-Dublin service on a Sunday.
It exists every other day of the week.
A 20:00 Dublin-Cork on a Sunday or a 06:00 on a Monday to stop a train set being out of place. Although a service at 06:00 every day of the week might be nice. It would mean passengers from further afield than Mallow could be in Cork for the start of the business day.
In absolute fantasy land, 15 minutes off Cork-Dublin services to get the timings back to where they were in the late 90s.
Colm Moore
20-08-2009, 13:33
Could possibly be, they (well only certain ticket collectors) use the SDO on the 18.25 Heuston-Waterford to keep people from hopping onto the "Premier" carraige when it is loading at Heuston. Anyone who has a first class ticket has to go to the end of the carraige and then walk back.I wonder if this is being done manually with keys and not centrally from the driver's / train host's control console.
I wonder if this is being done manually with keys and not centrally from the driver's / train host's control console.
Seems to be via the driver, as I heard someone giving out to the ticket collector one evening as they forgot to unlock the doors when it reached Athy, and everyone who was waiting at the door to get off had to plod up through the carraige to the door at the other end.
Mark Gleeson
20-08-2009, 13:54
I'd be starting to worry about the safety implications of this
The question is, is the door mechanically locked (i.e the emergency override won't work) or simply electrically locked out where the emergency override will release the door
The manual lock is strictly speaking designed to lock a door which is unserviceable i.e. one which may not lock correctly.
Edit, I'm told if the mechanical lock is used the door cannot be opened using the emergency handle
what does that mean mark? is it a safe workaround in the rscs books?
Mark Gleeson
20-08-2009, 14:25
Consulting currently, but under the UK rule book no passengers would be allowed in any coach where
1. A door at the leading end of a coach at the front of the train or
2. A door at the trailing end of a coach at the rear of the train
Are defective, that appears to be a safety/evacuation requirement
Under SDO the emergency handle always works, so a door locked out for a short platform still can used to evacuate if required
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